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51. We'll have to keep that in mind

Reply to Eleanors38 (Reply #32)

Wed Sep 4, 2013, 08:20 PM

Sep 2013

and here I was trying to avoid such insulting terms.

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Florida man invokes Stand Your Ground after shooting 11 times, killing 2 and injuring a third. [View all] BainsBane Sep 2013 OP

How in the hell do you claim stand your ground when you snuck up on the people you shot giftedgirl77 Sep 2013 #1

I think he is claiming they had been harassing him for some time BainsBane Sep 2013 #3

Well, he can "claim" anything he wants. ManiacJoe Sep 2013 #54

Premeditated. Baitball Blogger Sep 2013 #64

Thats how they roll....in Florida . nt Vanje Sep 2013 #5

Both of my parents are from Florida giftedgirl77 Sep 2013 #8

They'll find a jury stupid enough to find him not guilty brush Sep 2013 #13

Like that moron in Houston who tried to "manufacture" his own SYG shooting Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #15

Did that work? Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #17

nope.... Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #20

Funny, in your link I saw very little of "quite a few" Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #30

I said "early on" in the case Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #40

Well, I rarely comment on individual cases while in Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #47

People have lost their damn minds... giftedgirl77 Sep 2013 #18

Gun-fuckers in action. Iggo Sep 2013 #26

Ahem. That's "gunhumpers" according to GD style manual. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #32

We'll have to keep that in mind BainsBane Sep 2013 #51

You would just love the post today which claimed gun owners Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #52

In the gungeon? BainsBane Sep 2013 #58

Oh, it could be in three (3) groups/forum, I forget. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #59

He also invoked the Bush Doctrine. City Lights Sep 2013 #2

Yes, they called it a "preemptive strike" as permitted liberalhistorian Sep 2013 #57

We should ban not guilty pleas too. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #4

In his (twisted) mind, "they" were out to get him meow2u3 Sep 2013 #6

Who was out to get who? brush Sep 2013 #10

That's my point meow2u3 Sep 2013 #43

Let's hope the judge agrees. BainsBane Sep 2013 #14

The guy who *survived* was shot 11 times. Robb Sep 2013 #7

Damn.. darkangel218 Sep 2013 #9

Handguns are notoriously poor mankillers. ManiacJoe Sep 2013 #55

Without knowing the races of the parties involved, it's hard to say whether he will be let off. denverbill Sep 2013 #11

true BainsBane Sep 2013 #12

In Florida whites have a higher conviction rate in SYG cases than blacks hack89 Sep 2013 #23

when they shoot other whites. when they shoot black people, they get off much easier. bettyellen Sep 2013 #41

There are so few cases of white on black or black on white murder hack89 Sep 2013 #44

Or as "Thug for Life" said in the cartoon Candorville Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #48

Impossible. Whites don't shoot other whites. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #62

The numbers do not agree with you. GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #63

He can claim anything he wants. Doesn't mean he'll get it. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #16

the point is it's a news story BainsBane Sep 2013 #21

Another false charge... Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #25

He can claim anything, including that they were Klingons and he was defending the Federation... Demo_Chris Sep 2013 #19

That defense is ridiculous and will not work with Stand your ground. n/t 1awake Sep 2013 #22

It'll be interesting to see how this shakes out... ileus Sep 2013 #24

If he wins the case based on SYG, a very large can of worms will be opened. It would mean that one AlinPA Sep 2013 #60

Jesus Christ fucking gun nuts gopiscrap Sep 2013 #27

Already advocated. How's it workin' out? Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #33

what besides her gun, her 38, of Eleanor Roosevelt, did you like? CreekDog Sep 2013 #56

You haven't asked that before; you wanted some reading list. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #61

Stupid claim, but don't be surprised if he wins the case. 'He was threatened', so it's OK to shoot. AlinPA Sep 2013 #28

the U.S. Isn't "gun crazy," but some like the defendant seem that way. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #35

To all the people in this thread saying that "he can claim SYG, but it doesn't mean it will fly", Moses2SandyKoufax Sep 2013 #29

+100000. Hoyt Sep 2013 #31

Nah, my money is on the BDD: Bush Doctrine Defense. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #34

precisely. BainsBane Sep 2013 #39

and the dead and injured don't figure into the discussion for them. bettyellen Sep 2013 #42

Yes. That's it. AlinPA Sep 2013 #50

Where do you stand on insanity pleas and plain ol' self-defense pleas? Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #65

What the fuck does that have to do with the topic of this thread? Moses2SandyKoufax Sep 2013 #67

I'm addressing the fact that any legitimate plea can be abused for illegitimate reasons. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #68

Just another day in the life of ... 99Forever Sep 2013 #36

Incredible. If he suffers from PTSD then that would be the defense, no? Stand your ground Jefferson23 Sep 2013 #37

I'm sure PTSD will be considered as lawyers have used it Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #49

He can claim it... sarisataka Sep 2013 #38

Here's a link with a mugshot. Smiley sort, ain't he? nolabear Sep 2013 #45

He looks pleased with himself BainsBane Sep 2013 #46

If only everyone had guns. Then they could all be dead. Gungeoneer logic. nt valerief Sep 2013 #53

Happily all his victims were victimized while unarmed. Pro-criminal logic. nt Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #66