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freshwest

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51. I guess I'm having trouble understanding how dad got away with it, too. The civil war is a bit late.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 01:52 AM
Sep 2013

I'd never heard good things about the father or the son. Damn, things are rough over there most of the time. Kind of pre United Nations, or human rights. But then Syria has been around for centuries, as I noted here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017143236

Thousands of years of history for the people, although the nation itself was defined by WW1. And I suppose by WW2. Now folks are saying it's the beginning of WW3.

From what I've been reading, there are global connections through Syria, but I'm not sure why this is the case. Could be that 'location X3' thing... I would think Turkey is more important.

Now I'm reading, but only in passing, thank goodness, conspiracies about the Jews - that train is never late! - set up Al Queda and Wahabism. Now we have people saying Obama is giving Syria to Al Queda? Is this the next big CT?

And I read the Russians provoked the 6-Day War. I'd never imagined such a thing. Syria was in the Byzantine Empire which is gone, but the page on Byzantism describes what we are up against here, with our inexperience:

Byzantinism or Byzantism
is a term used in political science and philosophy to denote the political system and culture of the Byzantine Empire, and its spiritual successors, in particular, the Balkan states, the Ottoman Empire and Russia.[1][2] The term byzantinism itself was coined in the 19th century.[3] The term has primarily negative associations, implying complexity and autocracy.

This negative reputation stressed the confusing complexities of the Empire's ministries, the elaborateness of its court ceremonies, as well as its supposed lack of backbone in martial affairs. Likewise, the "Byzantine system" also suggests a penchant for intrigue, plots and assassinations and an overall unstable political state of affairs. The term has been criticized by modern scholars for being a generalization that is not very representative of the reality of the Byzantine aristocracy and bureaucracy.[4][5]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantinism



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Empire

I can't wrap my mind about what this is. From either side. I really do not want this. I do understand that strategic strikes can work but in a country with that many people?

What a hellish mess. I'm mad at Assad for being such a fool and doing all of this because it cannot work in the long run, nor should it work. IMHO.

Thanks for expressing your opinions on this.

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Putin over Assad, because he actually has influence outside of his borders. eom tarheelsunc Sep 2013 #1
Rootin' Tootin' Putin, of course. Shrike47 Sep 2013 #2
Putin is a bully with nukes. As long as he is in power, I think the doomsday clock turns forward. nt onehandle Sep 2013 #3
Putin as far as how much power and influence he has , but i think Saddam and Assad were personally JI7 Sep 2013 #4
Putin, but if you'd asked me which country is the most dangerous, I would have cali Sep 2013 #5
agreed. nt La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2013 #12
Assad Benton D Struckcheon Sep 2013 #6
Well said. And I keep asking myself, why didn't Assad listen to Syria's Arab Spring protestors? freshwest Sep 2013 #48
Tradition? Benton D Struckcheon Sep 2013 #50
I guess I'm having trouble understanding how dad got away with it, too. The civil war is a bit late. freshwest Sep 2013 #51
Obama. TM99 Sep 2013 #7
If its "person I'd least like to knife-fight" w/, then probably Putin. If its "person I'm least Erose999 Sep 2013 #8
Of these choices, President Obama is the greatest threat to both peace and American liberty... Demo_Chris Sep 2013 #9
At this point in time I'm sad to say I feel the same way. hardcover Sep 2013 #14
WWIII wouldn't happen.....not without a clear indication of some sort of deeper conspiracy..... AverageJoe90 Sep 2013 #16
Russia is not going to just hand over Syria... HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #27
I don't think so. AverageJoe90 Sep 2013 #30
Oh, bullshit. nt HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #36
Then why isn't Putin sending Assad jet fighters that he needs? KittyWampus Sep 2013 #49
Jet fighters won't help Assad. HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #60
That sounds like a leader who should be impeached...... PragmaticLiberal Sep 2013 #41
Obama, hands down.... mike_c Sep 2013 #10
Kim J Il Supersedeas Sep 2013 #65
people who voted obama should be kicked off DU. i am by NO stretch of imagination an obama-purist La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2013 #11
Yes, thank you. BeeBee Sep 2013 #13
I disagree! zappaman Sep 2013 #15
lol.. did you just broadcast votes in a private poll?? 1awake Sep 2013 #25
The poll results are public. tridim Sep 2013 #29
Then my apologies... all these years I have never bothered to look. n/t 1awake Sep 2013 #32
Yeah, every poll is public. zappaman Sep 2013 #38
+1 Daniel537 Sep 2013 #33
purge away G_j Sep 2013 #34
That is true. David__77 Sep 2013 #47
I agree, the question was bound to trigger G_j Sep 2013 #52
Reminds me of people claiming he's the most authoritarian leader ever a few years back Posteritatis Sep 2013 #18
Kind of crazy isn't it Andy823 Sep 2013 #23
Well.... bunnies Sep 2013 #31
I voted Obama to stand against the idea that those should be "kicked off DU." David__77 Sep 2013 #39
I beg to differ-- it's NOT constitutional.... mike_c Sep 2013 #42
How silly. Of course it's Obama. Th1onein Sep 2013 #43
that is kind of ridiculous, frankly quinnox Sep 2013 #45
it is my opinion that if you think Obama is bigger threat than assad/putin, you don't belong here. n La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2013 #46
But, objectively, he is. ocpagu Sep 2013 #55
It's really not Obama per se eridani Sep 2013 #58
which is a very different questions altogether.nt La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2013 #61
Yes. I HATE this constant elevation of personalities over institutional power n/t eridani Sep 2013 #64
Putin. Assad is a madman, but he has no nukes(there were better choices, though! See text). AverageJoe90 Sep 2013 #17
I want it on the record that Throd voted for Assad Throd Sep 2013 #19
As long as you don't mind me taking it out of context! NuclearDem Sep 2013 #20
I get a lot of shit for still having his campaign stickers on my car. Throd Sep 2013 #22
Isn't that "Nobel Peace Prize winner Barack Obama"? n/t hughee99 Sep 2013 #21
I hear he's working on his second. n/t ozone_man Sep 2013 #28
To Syrians and Israelis and Turks- Assad at this moment. Putin in the long run. nt DevonRex Sep 2013 #24
King Abdullah al-Saud Scootaloo Sep 2013 #26
Most dangerous to whom? 1awake Sep 2013 #35
+1 LWolf Sep 2013 #37
Why? And why x5? tridim Sep 2013 #40
I could tell you why 1awake Sep 2013 #44
Putin by far davidpdx Sep 2013 #53
Obama. ocpagu Sep 2013 #54
Putin's the wild card. AtomicKitten Sep 2013 #56
Toss-up between Putin and Obama eridani Sep 2013 #57
The problem is imperial state power, not any particular leader eridani Sep 2013 #59
"Greatest threat to peace?" malthaussen Sep 2013 #62
LOL! zappaman Sep 2013 #63
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