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BainsBane

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34. Florida is definitely one of the states to be

Thu Sep 5, 2013, 03:03 AM

Sep 2013

If your idea of kicks is shooting black males. You can be proud of your friends in ALEC, the NRA, and the Koch brothers who gave Florida and other states the right to kill for the thrill of it.

All you have is insults. You offer not corrective on my description of the law, which is entirely accurate. It turns killing from the last resort to the first, which is way the extreme right-wing and their homicidal allies are so keen on it.

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stand your ground. yes? no? [View all] seabeyond Sep 2013 OP

It is that simple BainsBane Sep 2013 #1

You did great, putting it in the most simple terms! TY! Isoldeblue Sep 2013 #2

You're welcome! BainsBane Sep 2013 #3

Here's a scenario to consider. ... spin Sep 2013 #4

One's ability to retreat is considered in self defense law BainsBane Sep 2013 #6

If a "stand your ground" law is properly written .... spin Sep 2013 #18

Your second paragraph has Jenoch Sep 2013 #51

I read that earlier today pintobean Sep 2013 #52

Oh, please, you draw a weapon, you are dead before you get it pointed Warpy Sep 2013 #53

I don't disagree ... spin Sep 2013 #56

Excellent and clear explanation etherealtruth Sep 2013 #7

It is. If you're an idiot. flvegan Sep 2013 #25

Florida is definitely one of the states to be BainsBane Sep 2013 #34

Thanks for that explanation. HappyMe Sep 2013 #43

So, reading through pipi_k Sep 2013 #44

My preference now is for the law to be silent on both stand-your-ground petronius Sep 2013 #5

based on the verdicts of some recent high-profile cases Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #8

I was surprised to see you supporting it at all BainsBane Sep 2013 #12

+1 JustAnotherGen Sep 2013 #38

No. dawg Sep 2013 #9

Ordinary self-defense laws, including excepting DirkGently Sep 2013 #10

No Ohio Joe Sep 2013 #11

Yes 1awake Sep 2013 #13

Duty to retreat creates an onerous burden at trial Taitertots Sep 2013 #14

Duty to retreat was a failed 60 year experiment. X_Digger Sep 2013 #15

maybe we should give this a little more time Supersedeas Sep 2013 #61

Guns? No. Politics? Yes. LWolf Sep 2013 #16

Unless you cannot turn and walk away safely rustydog Sep 2013 #17

When I was much younger and far more foolish I used to drive recklessly. ... spin Sep 2013 #19

And all those who faced those same scenarios and died can't talk about it joeglow3 Sep 2013 #47

SYG is a get out of jail free card... Iggo Sep 2013 #20

Home invaders have more of a right to a person's house than the family living there. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #26

no Liberal_in_LA Sep 2013 #21

Yes, absolutely. Scary so many would want to relinquish their right to Skip Intro Sep 2013 #22

So what happens if a armed stalking bigot screws with you -- say an unarmed teenager -- first? Hoyt Sep 2013 #54

Hoyt, you can be a helpless victim if you like, that is your decision. Skip Intro Sep 2013 #58

You need to understand most of us can defend ourselves without a gun in our pants. Hoyt Sep 2013 #59

Really? Tell me all about it. n/t Skip Intro Sep 2013 #62

It's a license for whites to murder blacks and other minorities. HolyMoley Sep 2013 #23

ack, missed the smiley Skip Intro Sep 2013 #28

Sadly though HolyMoley Sep 2013 #29

I believe it. SYG was pushed by the NRA, and backed by the bigoted Republicans in Florida. Hoyt Sep 2013 #55

How many steps in retreat is a woman legally obligated to make when confronted by a rapist? Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #24

Some of us actually know the law BainsBane Sep 2013 #30

Yes, no duty to retreat. That's right. Skip Intro Sep 2013 #31

"Some of us actually know the law" rrneck Sep 2013 #33

You only know what you want to believe Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #39

I hear a lot about "rape culture" on this forum. rrneck Sep 2013 #45

We're supposed to wait for big, burly men to come rescue us fair damsels. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #46

I like SYG LittleBlue Sep 2013 #27

No. Juries should weigh each case individually Recursion Sep 2013 #32

Please add the "Fuck no!" option to your poll. Th1onein Sep 2013 #35

****STATISTICALLY A WHITES ONLY LAW***** I'd support it if the judges were held to a strick uponit7771 Sep 2013 #36

Blacks successfully use it too. It isn't a "Whites only" law. GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #41

Blacks have a higher acquital rate in Florida in SYG cases than whites do. hack89 Sep 2013 #42

The statistics don't say what you think they do. Bazinga Sep 2013 #50

Support the concept but not always the implementation/application by DA's and such The Straight Story Sep 2013 #37

Virginias self defense laws aren't that bad IMHO. ileus Sep 2013 #40

I don't carry a gun, wild bird Sep 2013 #48

SYG isn't about guns whoiswithme Sep 2013 #49

I see no way in which SYG won't be abused horribly. LostOne4Ever Sep 2013 #57

Without solid, concrete rules for what constitutes a genuine "threat" LadyHawkAZ Sep 2013 #60