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Cryptoad

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144. I know where I stand

Thu Sep 5, 2013, 12:22 PM

Sep 2013

Im trying to understand how anybody could defend the use of WMD without any repercussions .

btw. I have posted my stands repeatedly .......

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350 children die from malnutrition every hour. Let's bomb Syria! [View all] MannyGoldstein Sep 2013 OP

are you saying we don't do anything about that at all? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #1

It's not nearly the big deal that Syria is. MannyGoldstein Sep 2013 #4

I'll settle for a War on Greed (and the greedy :) - nt HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #153

Certainly we could use the same resources... Blanks Sep 2013 #160

No, he's saying we could do MORE with the money we waste on throwing missiles at people Scootaloo Sep 2013 #6

we aren't planning on "throwing missiles at people" to my knowledge.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #8

Syriasly? Scootaloo Sep 2013 #10

Unlike Assads chemicals VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #12

Non-human targets? Scootaloo Sep 2013 #15

I refer to Syrian fighter planes...etc..as targets... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #18

I'm talking about a sustained barrage of missile strikes against Syria Scootaloo Sep 2013 #23

You have NEVER heard me use the phrase "bomb them back to the stone age" VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #24

No, but I did just get done speaking with a 35k+ poster who advocated exactly that Scootaloo Sep 2013 #26

No I didn't "cheif" VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #29

While that's interesting (and IMO, unlikely) Scootaloo Sep 2013 #30

the operative phrase &quot;IMO&quot; VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #31

Of the dollar the entire world spends for the military, WHEN CRABS ROAR Sep 2013 #38

actually its more than that.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #54

Oh, I don't doubt the "incinerating chemical weapons" part Scootaloo Sep 2013 #39

But of course VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #56

It's not a question of knowing more, it's a question of knowing enough Scootaloo Sep 2013 #63

Apparently you DIDN"T know about that till I showed you.. VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #65

Really, are you having this much difficulty understanding the principles of physics? Scootaloo Sep 2013 #73

YOU are the one that is denying the science... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #74

That's rich Scootaloo Sep 2013 #81

Yea it is isn't it? Who is denying science and thermodynamics? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #116

Go back. Read my posts Scootaloo Sep 2013 #121

No you read my newest! VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #123

As i said, I don't doubt their incendiary capabilities Scootaloo Sep 2013 #127

Excellent words, friend, excellent words. marew Sep 2013 #128

Same Military...with a CiC that didn't give a shit about collateral damage... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #129

Ummm...chlorine gas is not just a "disinfectant" Maedhros Sep 2013 #159

As a matter of fact...here is another article...this time from USA today: VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #68

I spent a couple of hours discussing this with VR last night, the poster Dragonfli Sep 2013 #41

You don't have to believe...I just gave an article from the BBS to back up my claim... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #58

as I told you before, lovely dream where weapons are destroyed and no one killed, Dragonfli Sep 2013 #67

oh so now we cannot do anything....if even one person might die... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #69

Many will die, it's what military actions do, kill people. Dragonfli Sep 2013 #79

Assad...overall goal to attempt to kill hundreds if not thousands... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #140

killing hundreds if not thousands more will not change his mind, it will escalate to more killing Dragonfli Sep 2013 #143

the goal is not to convince anyone of anything. bvar22 Sep 2013 #154

Clearly, but you would think they would do their work without appearing so silly and stupid.... Dragonfli Sep 2013 #163

Appearing silly and stupid doesn't matter anymore. bvar22 Sep 2013 #165

I always equated "Pro War" with the conservatives. I would hope Democrats would rhett o rick Sep 2013 #138

How about bombing to eliminate chemical weapons... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #141

syrian rebels bombing to eliminate questionseverything Sep 2013 #147

They are in a Civil War...it says "regime held" VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #151

Sure trust us this time Charlie Brown. We are only going to use bombs for goodness. nm rhett o rick Sep 2013 #150

Stop that sanity, you'll confuse several of the others on this thread! Scuba Sep 2013 #152

It still is. RC Sep 2013 #164

Hahahaha, AWESOME come-back! beerandjesus Sep 2013 #145

1. you are ignorant of the targets MNBrewer Sep 2013 #22

Um no I am not... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #25

Well I hope they're a bit more discriminate than they were in Libya. polly7 Sep 2013 #32

Oh really.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #35

And the people living next to them? WHEN CRABS ROAR Sep 2013 #40

All efforts will be made to minimize that impact... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #46

Why does it have to be we who do something? Are we the world's policeman? totodeinhere Sep 2013 #85

because we are the only ones with the technology to neutralize chemical weapons. VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #86

lmao. What a pile of crap. nt. polly7 Sep 2013 #92

Oh really? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #94

Yup. They've been shoveling a lot of it lately haven't they. n/t totodeinhere Sep 2013 #118

But taking out their chemical weapons will require boots on the ground. totodeinhere Sep 2013 #114

uh actually no it wont... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #115

Since you ignored my previous link here are some more. totodeinhere Sep 2013 #117

How the hell would THEY know about all the secret technology we have... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #120

Let me turn that question around. How the hell do you know? totodeinhere Sep 2013 #130

because I read...alot VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #131

I'll see your Defense one link...and raise that with one of my own VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #122

That would be quite an operation if they attempted to pull it off. Note that the quote specifies totodeinhere Sep 2013 #135

List the targets, since you know them! MNBrewer Sep 2013 #33

Here is a nice article from the Beeb on it.. VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #36

yea Cryptoad Sep 2013 #75

Of course they didn't if you happen to read...you will see that much is available through sat images VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #77

There are satilite Cryptoad Sep 2013 #80

Assad has been moving military assets to civilian areas. It won't be possible to hit his military totodeinhere Sep 2013 #64

Oh really VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #72

Syria dismisses US decision to hold off on strikes, moves troops and weapons to civilian areas totodeinhere Sep 2013 #84

"we plan on actual non human targets".........and the day after ?.... then what ? NM_Birder Sep 2013 #142

I've posted this on other threads, but it looks like it needs to go here as well. Maedhros Sep 2013 #158

with all the 'syria gas attack' heaven05 Sep 2013 #50

Then I would dare say your knowledge is lacking. rhett o rick Sep 2013 #136

+1000 !!!! orpupilofnature57 Sep 2013 #126

Are you saying that we are? nm rhett o rick Sep 2013 #134

Are you one of those that feels that feeding kids is "playing God?" Renew Deal Sep 2013 #2

I think it's "playing decent human being" nt MannyGoldstein Sep 2013 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author MannyGoldstein Sep 2013 #3

Well, see, feeding starving children will not line the pockets of the banks and contractors. PDJane Sep 2013 #7

we do give a lot in humanitarian aid , but the problem is often the politics JI7 Sep 2013 #9

So why don't we blow *those* people to smithereens? MannyGoldstein Sep 2013 #11

because it's not because they are trying to starve people to death JI7 Sep 2013 #13

Assad doesn't want to kill people MannyGoldstein Sep 2013 #17

would you compare republicans denying Sandy aid JI7 Sep 2013 #21

Idunno. MannyGoldstein Sep 2013 #53

You know Assad personally? ProSense Sep 2013 #27

It's interesting MannyGoldstein Sep 2013 #55

who is starving someone to death ? JI7 Sep 2013 #57

Your argument was the same as mine MannyGoldstein Sep 2013 #88

that's a strange comparison JI7 Sep 2013 #89

Wonder about what? MannyGoldstein Sep 2013 #90

Are you now or have you ever been a Hyena? Dragonfli Sep 2013 #99

Oh, man MannyGoldstein Sep 2013 #101

That was yesterday Dragonfli Sep 2013 #104

Day-um MannyGoldstein Sep 2013 #107

Truthfully, the US spends less that 1% of the GDP on humanitarian aid. PDJane Sep 2013 #16

No, we really don't. What we mostly do is label corporate welfare humanitarian aid. Egalitarian Thug Sep 2013 #19

Why not feed the children and bomb Syria? William769 Sep 2013 #14

What, you mean like feed the children with the bodies of our dead bombing victims? Dragonfli Sep 2013 #87

Feed The Future ProSense Sep 2013 #20

There Is No Profit In Feeding The Starving... Bombing The Innocent... Oh, Yeah... WillyT Sep 2013 #28

10 million Americans per year can't pay their medical bills. DirkGently Sep 2013 #34

Dwight D. Eisenhower Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #37

. amerikat Sep 2013 #60

Does Justice not apply to Assad????????? nt Cryptoad Sep 2013 #42

This has nothing to do with justice for anyone. nt. polly7 Sep 2013 #44

Very interesting Cryptoad Sep 2013 #78

Obama is not a judge, and certainly not a "judge Dredd" figure responsible as jury and executioner Dragonfli Sep 2013 #47

you still didn't address the Question nt Cryptoad Sep 2013 #76

I most certainly did. Dragonfli Sep 2013 #82

World court ,,,, you jest Cryptoad Sep 2013 #83

I JEST? It is literally legally not our place to play "Judge Dredd" no matter how sexy the costume. Dragonfli Sep 2013 #97

Well ,,,, Cryptoad Sep 2013 #125

Take it to mean what it means - rule of law applies to all, EVEN US as well as him. Dragonfli Sep 2013 #139

And what happens to the women in Syria if our new best friends take over? dflprincess Sep 2013 #95

Can I take that as a Cryptoad Sep 2013 #124

the rebels you wanna prop questionseverything Sep 2013 #148

Do you find it easier to ask question like this than actually make a statement? rhett o rick Sep 2013 #137

I know where I stand Cryptoad Sep 2013 #144

No one is defending the use of WMD without repercussions. Some disagree on rhett o rick Sep 2013 #149

bush is that you? noiretextatique Sep 2013 #155

The lust to kill outweighs the desire to save lives? Where one puts one's money indepat Sep 2013 #43

At the very least, can we as a group stop taking about reducing the military budget? AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #45

I agree, we must avoid more of these "punitive strikes" they feel they need to use Dragonfli Sep 2013 #49

What do dying children have to do with protecting petrodollars? valerief Sep 2013 #48

POVERTY is a Weapon of Mass Destruction. n/t Beartracks Sep 2013 #51

WAR WAR WAR blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #52

Yep.... Owl Sep 2013 #70

Why? another_liberal Sep 2013 #59

It's immoral to feed starving children Aerows Sep 2013 #61

No money to be made on starving kids... polichick Sep 2013 #62

because we actually live in a crazy culture gate of the sun Sep 2013 #66

K&R MotherPetrie Sep 2013 #71

Hey ... I know of someone who might know where Sudan is... L0oniX Sep 2013 #91

She should move to Minnesota's 6th Congressional District MannyGoldstein Sep 2013 #93

Oh Manny, give us a break. dflprincess Sep 2013 #98

But the word salad thing is very, very difficult to get just right MannyGoldstein Sep 2013 #102

Well, you do have a point there. dflprincess Sep 2013 #108

I used to work with someone who lived in that district MannyGoldstein Sep 2013 #110

They're just nuts dflprincess Sep 2013 #111

I don't know. We do what we can. jazzimov Sep 2013 #96

Food aid has its own problems. joshcryer Sep 2013 #100

Good idea. Let's end food stamps. MannyGoldstein Sep 2013 #103

That's different from what USAID does. joshcryer Sep 2013 #105

Since I never mentioned USAID, MannyGoldstein Sep 2013 #106

By what other mechanism does the US provide food aid? joshcryer Sep 2013 #109

I don't know, but that's not the point. MannyGoldstein Sep 2013 #112

Fixing the distribution network costs nothing. joshcryer Sep 2013 #119

I thought dead was dead? treestar Sep 2013 #113

Also, inevitable: ProSense Sep 2013 #132

No money to be made feeding starving kids workinclasszero Sep 2013 #133

I don't think bombing malnourished children instead of Syria will help any. hughee99 Sep 2013 #146

We can do better that that, Manny... Jeff In Milwaukee Sep 2013 #156

Why? DeSwiss Sep 2013 #157

Oh I like Terrance, I've just begun rereading "True Hallucinations" as I found my original copy Dragonfli Sep 2013 #166

As do I. DeSwiss Sep 2013 #167

You have shared Dedroidify with me in the past and it has since displaced most of the Dragonfli Sep 2013 #168

I thought so, but wasn't sure.... DeSwiss Sep 2013 #169

Thanks, and I resemble that old and cranky remark as well /nt Dragonfli Sep 2013 #170

But to feed all those starving children for a year would cost almost a billion dollars! tclambert Sep 2013 #161

Lots of Death And Suffering Here And Elsewhere colsohlibgal Sep 2013 #162