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Hydra

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38. We're pushing for a strike before the UN inspection results are released

Thu Sep 5, 2013, 12:33 PM

Sep 2013

Doing this the right way won't take long...but for some reason Kerry and Obama are giving us vague info and are rushing the process so that we won't see that until after we hit the tar baby. On top of that, they're talking about a regime change on the heels of "we're just going to do some bombing."

A strong case needs to be made for this, and that's what we should be doing anyway. Strong evidence, a good plan that includes other partners and agreements(Including UN acknowledgement of the problem), and a clear goal and timetable.

We have none of those right now. If the Repubs stop this crazy train out of pure spite, that's not a bad thing. At least we've gotten past the point that the President was going to call the strike himself, so there has to be some hope somewhere.

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For most Republicans this is about clowning President Obama, nothing more, nothing less. [View all] DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2013 OP

If Obama wanted to avoid the clowns he should have avoided small cars and big shoes leveymg Sep 2013 #1

I think Obama has very real reasons for a strike on Assad--he is in a difficult situation. TwilightGardener Sep 2013 #4

I absolutely agree about the difficult situation, but he could have avoided this by not allowing the leveymg Sep 2013 #13

I don't think we should have chosen sides and declared "Assad must go", or interfered in TwilightGardener Sep 2013 #16

I agree with you. If command responsibility can be determined beyond a reasonable doubt leveymg Sep 2013 #29

+ Infinity! - nt HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #28

We're talking about a pointless war of choice. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #2

War and attacks just aren't fun under Obama. You don't get songs about a "boot in their ass". TwilightGardener Sep 2013 #3

I saw this one clown, Representative Yoho, on Hardball DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2013 #5

Whatever their reasons... HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #6

Wow. Based on the whining, it's sounding like the War Drums' beat is wavering a bit... Romulox Sep 2013 #7

If supporting Obama makes one a warmonger in this instance does opposing him make one a Rushbot? DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2013 #10

Supporting war is what makes one a warmonger. Sorry that the truth is so uncomfortable. Romulox Sep 2013 #12

Supporting Rush Limbaugh is what makes one a Rushbot. Sorry that the truth is so uncomfortable. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2013 #14

You support war. Nobody here supports Rush. You are embarrassing yourself with this argument. nt Romulox Sep 2013 #15

I support the president in this instance. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2013 #17

I support principle, regardless of who is President. That's a morally defensible stance. Romulox Sep 2013 #18

As do I and I see no conflict between my principles and supporting the president in this instance. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2013 #19

Then stop citing support of President as a reason to kill people. Romulox Sep 2013 #20

I support the president in this instance because his principles are consistent with mine. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2013 #21

You'll need to *articulate* those principles if you want gain support. So far, you given us Romulox Sep 2013 #23

First principles DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2013 #25

who cares? that's way, way down my list of concerns regarding Syria cali Sep 2013 #8

If they prevent this war I don't care what their motives are. MotherPetrie Sep 2013 #9

+1 840high Sep 2013 #34

If their stupidity serves a higher purposed I'm all for it. KittyWampus Sep 2013 #11

They see themselves as Stephen King's Langoliers. Devour everything and drag us into a black hole. freshwest Sep 2013 #22

Eh, what's your point? Absolutely no one here has thought otherwise. n/t devils chaplain Sep 2013 #24

Not so subtle drumming OP n/t Hydra Sep 2013 #27

How is a recitation of the facts drumming? DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2013 #30

As others have said, why is this relevant? Hydra Sep 2013 #31

Respectfully, I don't believe preventing the US from a limited attack on Syria will save the world DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2013 #32

The President can make his case to the UN Hydra Sep 2013 #33

Respectfully, how did President Obama pull a BUSHCO? DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2013 #36

We're pushing for a strike before the UN inspection results are released Hydra Sep 2013 #38

In the absence Of convincing evidence I will withdraw my support. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2013 #39

I understand where you are coming from Hydra Sep 2013 #41

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #26

Conversely.... LondonReign2 Sep 2013 #35

And also to damage Democrats. DCBob Sep 2013 #37

How come Boehner, Karl Rove, etc. support it? former9thward Sep 2013 #45

superficial faux support just for show.. DCBob Sep 2013 #48

The spin of the pro-war crowd goes on. former9thward Sep 2013 #50

Im not pro-war.. in fact I dont think we should attack Syria at this point. DCBob Sep 2013 #52

The main thing everybody in DC does is try and score political points. former9thward Sep 2013 #54

You don't think taking an action that the American public overwhelmingly opposes . . . markpkessinger Sep 2013 #47

so should we start sending missiles so obama can save face? frylock Sep 2013 #40

I don't really Niceguy1 Sep 2013 #42

Why are Bush, Boehner, Rove, and Cheney for it? former9thward Sep 2013 #43

Mr. Red Line set himself up for this, he gets what he deserves in this scenerio. Crimson76 Sep 2013 #44

Count me with Will Pitt . . . markpkessinger Sep 2013 #46

I could give a rats ass what the republicans motives are Puzzledtraveller Sep 2013 #49

Has America launched an attack on another sovereign nation under a Republican president since WWII indepat Sep 2013 #51

so? sendero Sep 2013 #53

They'd be voting for an end to foreign adventurism as US foreign policy. geek tragedy Sep 2013 #55

if domestic politics and avoiding embarrassment is the motive for sacrificing human life - then Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #56