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quinnox

(20,600 posts)
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 12:50 PM Sep 2013

Do you think it is sound logic that whatever Rand Paul is for, you should be against? [View all]

There is a certain group on DU who always raises the specter of Rand Paul and what his political position is as some sort of argument-killer. The implication (sometimes stated clearly) is that you must be a libertarian or have a screw loose if you agree with R. Paul on whatever the issue happens to be. So, for instance, if R. Paul is against the NSA spying, then you should be for it. Or, if R. Paul is against the Syrian intervention, then you should be for it (as a recent infamous thread made this argument), otherwise, you are not being a good and loyal Democrat, or something. Personally, I think this logic is, well, pretty dumb. And it also puts R. Paul on some sort of bizarre pedestal, almost like an obsession with him.

It makes me wonder - following this weird logic - that I bet Rand Paul is against torturing cute little puppies, so does that mean I have to be for torturing those adorable puppies?

Or, I bet Rand Paul is for the first amendment and freedom of speech, does that mean I have to be against it? (No more freedom of speech for you! )

I would wager Rand Paul is for the imprisonment of criminals who commit violent acts, does that mean I have to be against putting these criminals in prison?

I think I have made my feelings clear.

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nah, it's not logic at all, just moronic as hell. cali Sep 2013 #1
I saw him wearing clothes, so now I always go naked. nt ZombieHorde Sep 2013 #2
PICS! Or this post is worthless! Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #6
I've been refusing to breathe ever since I heard he does. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #12
It's what assholes do when they run out of arguments. n/t whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #3
And yet those same voices find themselves aligned with Rove, Cheney and Rummy. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #4
Thanks for making my point BEFORE I made it. JoePhilly Sep 2013 #7
No ... now let's hear what Dick Cheney thinks ... and McCain, and Graham too ... JoePhilly Sep 2013 #5
It's an idiotic approach to take n/t Lurks Often Sep 2013 #8
Your argument is facile, because you conflate things that have relevance to the political sphere msanthrope Sep 2013 #9
So what you are suggesting . . . markpkessinger Sep 2013 #24
No--what I'm suggesting is that to put Rand Paul in the same league as John Kerry or President Obama msanthrope Sep 2013 #28
I haven't seen anyone put Rand Paul "in the same league" as the others you mention markpkessinger Sep 2013 #31
Thank you. Skidmore Sep 2013 #32
Well, it should make you think twice, at least. The Pauls are self-important scumbags. nt onehandle Sep 2013 #10
I'd say both sides are equally guilty... brooklynite Sep 2013 #11
I agree. ZombieHorde Sep 2013 #17
Absolutely not. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #13
Follow no man. blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #14
The enemy of my enemy is still my enemy. Rand Paul is an idiot, but he's a useful one sometimes. Erose999 Sep 2013 #15
Rand Paul is definitely a batshit crazy extremist. Initech Sep 2013 #16
Not sure whether he genuinely believes that shit, or is merely an unprincipled opportunist. n/t winter is coming Sep 2013 #19
No, but it's definitely amusing to see "Rand Paul" and "sound logic" appear in the same sentence. winter is coming Sep 2013 #18
Not necessarily. Now if Sanders and Warren turn out to be for something that Paul is against, pampango Sep 2013 #20
No tkmorris Sep 2013 #21
It's called PDS . . . markpkessinger Sep 2013 #22
It's ABSURD. It's second grade logic. woo me with science Sep 2013 #23
Is it "sound logic" to be opposed to anything Heritage is for? ProSense Sep 2013 #25
no it is not sound logic. liberal_at_heart Sep 2013 #26
ABSOLUTELY YES if you're feeble-minded Blue Owl Sep 2013 #27
well they can't say they are always for whatever Obama is for Skittles Sep 2013 #29
He's for toupees. I'm totally against it. SummerSnow Sep 2013 #30
Same goes for McSame, Boner,Graham, and the other Chickenhawks whom Obama has gone to NightWatcher Sep 2013 #33
D=good, R=bad alc Sep 2013 #34
Of course it isn't, in the real world MNBrewer Sep 2013 #35
No. But neither should "progressives" be promoting him... SidDithers Sep 2013 #36
Here is Obama in Time Magazine waxing promotional of Tom Coburn. Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #42
So, I'll put you down as "OK to promote Rand Paul"... SidDithers Sep 2013 #45
If the Pauls come out in favor of dental hygiene... HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #37
No JustAnotherGen Sep 2013 #38
It is an abstract as hominem. It assumes Paul is always wrong. bemildred Sep 2013 #39
If Rand Paul and Ron Paul disagree on something, does that mean that there is no correct take on it? JVS Sep 2013 #40
Does Rand hate pizza? LiberalAndProud Sep 2013 #41
Only if you're a Marxist deutsey Sep 2013 #43
No, it is just plain stupid to put it mildly and I don't know why it hasn't occurred to them so far sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #44
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