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Maedhros

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21. I begin every debate on war from the same position: NO.

Thu Sep 5, 2013, 11:58 AM

Sep 2013

It's up to the Administration to make an iron-clad case for intervention. So far, I haven't seen it. There are many holes in their argument, the biggest being: How will intervention actually make things better? Nobody has a satisfactory answer for that yet.

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Rep. Alan Grayson on Syria: Congress Should Reject "War Mongering" and Focus on Problems at Home [View all] joelz Sep 2013 OP

He's about as helpful as a Republican right now. Instead of reasoned discourse, TwilightGardener Sep 2013 #1

+1,000,000 lamp_shade Sep 2013 #3

Grayson is RIGHT. You need to calm your nerves, open your mind and pay attention. chimpymustgo Sep 2013 #44

Grayson may be pitching to Joe Six pack because he has to........ wandy Sep 2013 #5

"RED LINE!!" is reasoned discourse? leftstreet Sep 2013 #6

Actually, the prohibition on chem warfare is well known and a reasonable position to TwilightGardener Sep 2013 #7

Mature politicians can do it without invoking Hitler leftstreet Sep 2013 #8

I don't think Obama did that, did he? TwilightGardener Sep 2013 #9

Kerry doesn't speak for the Administration? leftstreet Sep 2013 #10

And Kerry is reasoned discourse? broiles Sep 2013 #14

Often, but not always. He sometimes veers into language and analogies that don't work on me. TwilightGardener Sep 2013 #19

The irony is, the Republicans are the ones who ARE being helpful on this right now. beerandjesus Sep 2013 #16

I'd like to hear pros and cons before deciding where to come down on this issue. TwilightGardener Sep 2013 #18

I begin every debate on war from the same position: NO. Maedhros Sep 2013 #21

OK. My first position is usually: WHY? TwilightGardener Sep 2013 #24

That's the second question Maedhros Sep 2013 #42

I'll play lark Sep 2013 #28

+1 JustAnotherGen Sep 2013 #29

What's wrong with appealing to the people? The people aren't stupid. David__77 Sep 2013 #27

He's not explaining a difficult situation. He's absorbing popular sentiment and pitching it back TwilightGardener Sep 2013 #33

I think he's trusting the people. David__77 Sep 2013 #34

Throughout American history, populism isn't always beneficial. TwilightGardener Sep 2013 #35

It's actually a very simple question MFrohike Sep 2013 #46

Rep. Grayson is right. I appreciate him speaking out on this Autumn Sep 2013 #2

Agreed. nt Xipe Totec Sep 2013 #4

Me too. zeemike Sep 2013 #11

Me too! BuelahWitch Sep 2013 #15

So do I eissa Sep 2013 #26

+1000000000 woo me with science Sep 2013 #38

I am not surprised a bit about those on this site who support death. Bombing will kill a lot of JRLeft Sep 2013 #12

What happened to this party? tblue Sep 2013 #32

But we have no money to Focus on Problems at Home Catherina Sep 2013 #13

Damn straight! Think of what one $700 billion payment to the MIC could do here! Initech Sep 2013 #17

NO "War For Profit." blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #20

We have our problems we have to deal with here and we are not the world's police. Chisox08 Sep 2013 #22

Congress should have been HappyMe Sep 2013 #23

What give us the right to decide what type of violence is acceptable? Ganja Ninja Sep 2013 #25

Chem warfare, WMD use, has historically been an international no-no. TwilightGardener Sep 2013 #31

But it's ok to sell them then comdem the dictator you sold them to because .. Ganja Ninja Sep 2013 #36

I don't know--is Obama bound by what other Presidents have done decades ago? TwilightGardener Sep 2013 #39

Then it should be handled internationally. eom Kermitt Gribble Sep 2013 #37

I'm rapidly getting to the point of losing ALL respect for the US govt. WHEN CRABS ROAR Sep 2013 #41

K&R n/t DeSwiss Sep 2013 #30

Thank you, Rep. Grayson. woo me with science Sep 2013 #40

Great, thanks for sharing. felix_numinous Sep 2013 #43

Grayson should replace Pelosi Faryn Balyncd Sep 2013 #45

Alan! AzDar Sep 2013 #47

Representative Grayson is representing felix_numinous Sep 2013 #48