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49. You misrepresent my point, but here is why

Thu Sep 5, 2013, 01:25 PM

Sep 2013

"So, for now, in the yes column. And whether you like it or not, a yes to military intervention regardless of scale puts you in the same camp as the neocons. Incidentally, that's the same for the President and the SoS."

... this is silliness. It's the simplistic nonsense that continues to drive the discussion.

Heritage Action Opposes Military Strike On Syria
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/heritage-action-opposes-military-strike-on-syria

I don't agree with RW idiotic tools because they are RW idiotic tools. Claiming that anyone who opposes or supports this action is aligning themselves with a certain group is silliness.

When I point out that I disagree with Rand Paul and Ron Paul, it's not to claim anyone else agrees with them. It's to express my opposition to their idiocy.

If you want to declare that you agree with them, that's on you.

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Rand Paul and Ron Paul are idiots! Sarah Palin is an idiot. [View all] ProSense Sep 2013 OP

So what's your stance on intervention in Syria then? NuclearDem Sep 2013 #1

No, ProSense Sep 2013 #3

In this case, yes, I agree with Bolton's position. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #4

Well, ProSense Sep 2013 #9

Are you ever going to answer the question? NuclearDem Sep 2013 #13

Again, ProSense Sep 2013 #28

So, for now, in the yes column. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #35

Thread win. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #45

You misrepresent my point, but here is why ProSense Sep 2013 #49

I don't have to declare I agree with them, it's simply a fact that I do in this case. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #55

Again, it's ProSense Sep 2013 #75

I never said I wasn't. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #77

+100 nt Mojorabbit Sep 2013 #100

You have failed to answer a direct query twice. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #18

Nonsense, you don't like the answer you received. That's on you. n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #22

You were asked a query, and you ignored it. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #25

No, you really didn't answer the question Aerows Sep 2013 #26

Perhaps she feels that if she disagrees with the Presdent that R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #29

I guess Aerows Sep 2013 #33

Why do you think it's my responsibility to prove anything to you? ProSense Sep 2013 #36

"I stated my opinion, if you disagree with it and want to discuss it, fine." R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #38

"You stated your opinion to a question not asked of you. " ProSense Sep 2013 #41

. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #44

It might be a violation of her NDA, or the Terms of Service Dreamer Tatum Sep 2013 #43

what exactly was the question? Whisp Sep 2013 #39

Read upthread. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #42

oh yeh, the Black vs. White arguement. Whisp Sep 2013 #47

"Doesn't work that way." R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #51

there is nothing simple about that question. Whisp Sep 2013 #53

. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #56

Yes, it is simple. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #59

The reason I have supported the President all this time Whisp Sep 2013 #67

well that explains a lot. cali Sep 2013 #80

Unlike all you so called experts of warfare And All Else here on DU Whisp Sep 2013 #82

channeling Britney Spears. nt delrem Sep 2013 #93

like, Obama is like, just like Bush! yah baby. Whisp Sep 2013 #97

I've got nothing against Britney. She's just not all that politically astute. K? delrem Sep 2013 #107

nothing new about evasive non-answers from cali Sep 2013 #76

waahhh. opposition to the President? You can't bear that, can you? cali Sep 2013 #2

You think supporting the President is the only reason to reject hypocrisy and idiocy? ProSense Sep 2013 #5

I think that's YOUR motivation for virtually everything you post here cali Sep 2013 #8

Again, does supporting the President mean one can't reject hypocrisy and idiocy? n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #11

Do you support the President implicitly? R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #20

Prosense lives to push the president's agenda. polichick Sep 2013 #32

It means that Aerows Sep 2013 #30

"I don't agree with them on anything." NCTraveler Sep 2013 #6

So many problems in America needs addressing and Obama is off to war blazeKing Sep 2013 #7

+1000 forestpath Sep 2013 #115

God forbid that liberals like me unite with libertarians on dumb wars! polichick Sep 2013 #10

Idiots like Rand and Ron Paul ProSense Sep 2013 #14

Divide and conquer, right? If the people say fuck no to dumb wars... polichick Sep 2013 #15

What? ProSense Sep 2013 #21

The goal of both corporate parties is to divide and conquer... polichick Sep 2013 #23

Oh please, Ron and Rand Paul and Sarah Palin are the Republican Party. n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #84

Yep - they're part of that corporate party and you push the agenda of... polichick Sep 2013 #85

Again, ProSense Sep 2013 #87

Have you ever disagreed with the administration here on DU? polichick Sep 2013 #89

Yes, but ProSense Sep 2013 #94

Problem is, you don't "make your case" - you just post a bunch of... polichick Sep 2013 #96

See, that ProSense Sep 2013 #101

Guess I should have italicized the word "your." No worries. polichick Sep 2013 #105

Prosense, do you ever feel like some are riding on a merry-go-round and thenbwonder why they never Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #106

Please grant others the humanity you claim for yourself cthulu2016 Sep 2013 #12

Really? ProSense Sep 2013 #16

and we should care what they think and say G_j Sep 2013 #17

Just for a change of pace Union Scribe Sep 2013 #19

See upstream. That's never going to happen. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #24

This whole OP and its defense it fekking weak. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #27

It really is weird Union Scribe Sep 2013 #34

You know what would ProSense Sep 2013 #31

You've been asked several times now for your personal position on a potential attack on Syria. Dreamer Tatum Sep 2013 #40

Wait ProSense Sep 2013 #46

You can redirect all you like, ProSense. Dreamer Tatum Sep 2013 #48

To be fair, she did answer. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #62

We all know her position quite well. Dreamer Tatum Sep 2013 #64

As a progressive I have no problem with agreeing with the Pauls that a Syrian intervention is a bad totodeinhere Sep 2013 #37

What you're doing here is drawing a binary. I'm opposed to intervention in Syria and IDGAF about Erose999 Sep 2013 #50

And what you're doing is ProSense Sep 2013 #52

I was opposed to striking Libya too. And yeah, NeoLib Obama was all too happy to bomb Libya too. Erose999 Sep 2013 #58

Also, Senators Boxer and Durbin voted against the IWR, but supported the Syria resolution: ProSense Sep 2013 #54

Yes, loudmouth idiots everywhere you turn whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #57

Ron Paul was right about Iraq, while Hillary and Kerry must live forever in shame with HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #60

You can make that claim, but ProSense Sep 2013 #66

Without getting all misty-eyed about the past, at the time of the Afghanistan vote, HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #70

I see the real issue here. Dreamer Tatum Sep 2013 #71

No ProSense Sep 2013 #81

Discredit WHAT? Your stance is vague at best, and curiously designed to move at will. Dreamer Tatum Sep 2013 #83

No, ProSense Sep 2013 #86

Your "group" alignment is crystal clear. nt Dreamer Tatum Sep 2013 #88

So do you disagree with Ron Paul about the Iraq War? Union Scribe Sep 2013 #90

Yes, ProSense Sep 2013 #92

You're bordering on spam now Union Scribe Sep 2013 #104

You asked: "So do you disagree with Ron Paul about the Iraq War?" I responded: ProSense Sep 2013 #110

Can't do it, can you? Union Scribe Sep 2013 #111

Rand Paul and Ron Paul are idiots! Sarah Palin is an idiot. ProSense Sep 2013 #112

I knew you couldn't. Or wouldn't. Union Scribe Sep 2013 #114

"Wrong"? The Pauls are idiots, and so is Palin. I'm not wrong. n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #116

Just impossible for her LondonReign2 Sep 2013 #119

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #61

Are you saying President Obama is "scum"? uppityperson Sep 2013 #63

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #74

So Obama is "scum" and "not even human DNA", and "evil", an "empty suit". Well. Aren't you uppityperson Sep 2013 #78

I "wish to conduct your life" by saying that Rand and Ron Paul and Sarah Palin are idiots. n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #69

Ron Paul was right on Iraq, and Hillary and Kerry were wrong. So your assertion rings false - nt HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #72

So because you say Ron Paul was "right on Iraq" means he's not an idiot? ProSense Sep 2013 #79

See post #71 above - of course you say that. It's easy. nt Dreamer Tatum Sep 2013 #73

Super duper honestly? GeorgeGist Sep 2013 #65

Yes, that's my opinion. ProSense Sep 2013 #68

Oh, not the Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran song again! freshwest Sep 2013 #91

K&R stonecutter357 Sep 2013 #95

I agree that Pro is an expert on idiots. Katashi_itto Sep 2013 #98

It's not hard to identify an idiot. n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #102

I agree that Katashi_itto is sneaky with his insults. Cha Sep 2013 #108

Moi? Katashi_itto Sep 2013 #117

Here is Obama waxing romantic about his agreement and friendship with Tom Coburn Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #99

I'm not Obama, and I detest Coburn. ProSense Sep 2013 #103

I always thought you were Robert Gibbs. madinmaryland Sep 2013 #113

Hypocrites? that crowd? lol.. add Hyperbolic bullshit and Cha Sep 2013 #109

I fully agree with your assessments of these clowns gopiscrap Sep 2013 #118