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felix_numinous

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47. The war lies are always in black and white

Thu Sep 5, 2013, 04:44 PM

Sep 2013

with us/ against us, terrorist/us, allies/enemies, on and on. We forget we live in a world in full color, with many options, most of which do not become clear unless you calm down and take the time to listen, research, and practice restraint--especially in order to err on the side of not bombing.

Almost NEVER do situations look the same after taking a second and third look at it. Look at the way truth comes out, always after the killing, the financial deals, who made a killing doing the killing.

We do not HAVE to respond. That is a FALLACY that the MIC perpetrates, because it is their jobs to be armed FORCES. Their job is to force--which means other options must be aggressively sought out.

We always have choices--and suspect anyone who tells you different.

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They're selling us ten year old lies for another war. [View all] NightWatcher Sep 2013 OP

I wonder if there will be pallets of missing cash leftstreet Sep 2013 #1

Where did that money Go ? warrant46 Sep 2013 #48

If we keep authorizing all of these never ending wars we will eventually have to bring back the liberal_at_heart Sep 2013 #2

A tour of Vietnam was 12 months. DirkGently Sep 2013 #7

A tour of Viet Nam AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #15

Marine Corps 6 months. DirkGently Sep 2013 #19

No, 13 months. How did you get 6 months? AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #20

The Internet. Don't tell me it was wrong about DirkGently Sep 2013 #22

I think we ought to object on artistic grounds phantom power Sep 2013 #3

On the other hand it does have a certain "camp" value. /nt Dragonfli Sep 2013 #40

I wish you wouldn't have fibbed in your OP. No one said Syria 'three days strike' Tx4obama Sep 2013 #4

link NightWatcher Sep 2013 #5

I wish that poster hadn't fibbed calling the OP a fib. DirkGently Sep 2013 #6

Agree with your comments!!! nt TxGrandpa Sep 2013 #13

Well at least there won't be any boots on the ground, AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #16

Irrelevant sulphurdunn Sep 2013 #10

Fuck going to war for Saudi Arabia Ocelot Sep 2013 #8

Don't you mean, "Fuck going to war for Saudi Arabia again." Coyotl Sep 2013 #38

WAR WAR WAR blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #9

Not even close. Daniel537 Sep 2013 #11

Is Syria as murderous as the USA? Think and do a tally before responding. delrem Sep 2013 #18

Wouldn't hurt to educate yourself about Assad and his murderous leadership. We have been lumpy Sep 2013 #61

You didn't do the tally. You didn't even start. You just absolved the US, delrem Sep 2013 #65

Thanks elleng Sep 2013 #31

You'll be about the 4th or 5th warmonger I've asked the following: 99Forever Sep 2013 #34

Who in hell would want to answer such silly questions ? lumpy Sep 2013 #62

You know.. sendero Sep 2013 #49

Show us where the US has been selling chemical weapons. You can't. lumpy Sep 2013 #57

I can.. sendero Sep 2013 #78

Talk about being naive, you take the cake. Here watch this video..... Little Star Sep 2013 #76

And this time there are Democrats buying them. nt LWolf Sep 2013 #12

That's why the PTB allow a "Democrat" to win the White House FiveGoodMen Sep 2013 #52

Yes. LWolf Sep 2013 #80

Syria poses a "grave and gathering threat" to the United States. Martin Eden Sep 2013 #14

I never said Obama is gwb. I never said he wanted to go to war before he came in NightWatcher Sep 2013 #24

"looks a lot like the last march to war" ... to you, not to me. Martin Eden Sep 2013 #25

I can't believe that you honestly don't see the similarities NightWatcher Sep 2013 #26

Similarities and dissimilarities can be found in every military intervention. Martin Eden Sep 2013 #28

The similarity of the Nite Owl Sep 2013 #32

You believe it is a false equivalency.. sendero Sep 2013 #50

ALL GOVERNMENT LIE ... Martin Eden Sep 2013 #59

There isn't.. sendero Sep 2013 #77

Lets hear about all those lies by our government re. Syria. I keep hearing about those lies but lumpy Sep 2013 #60

Sincerely, I would like to know about the lies supposidly said by the present US administration. lumpy Sep 2013 #51

Should any leader of a Nation who use WMD's Cryptoad Sep 2013 #17

They should be arrested and tried for war crimes. morningfog Sep 2013 #35

Agreed,,, Cryptoad Sep 2013 #42

There is a much, much worsr option than doing nothing. morningfog Sep 2013 #43

When you start using WMD Cryptoad Sep 2013 #44

It is not about protecting them. It is about us morningfog Sep 2013 #46

Glad to hear from our leading military leadership. lumpy Sep 2013 #63

The "leading military leadership" are known to lie. morningfog Sep 2013 #79

I really do like the option covered in ths article: truedelphi Sep 2013 #69

YES...let's start with bush and cheney noiretextatique Sep 2013 #56

Is anyone else tired of being the Middle East's little bitch? Snake Plissken Sep 2013 #21

more like Israel's bitch Carolina Sep 2013 #30

K&R n/t DeSwiss Sep 2013 #23

Night Watcher - what you are asking for ain't gonna happen till you get truedelphi Sep 2013 #27

You'll get the chance to vote Mr. Sane in. Why don't you run for office ? You have so erudite. lumpy Sep 2013 #64

Yep, Carolina Sep 2013 #29

The 'red line in the sand' was put forth many years ago when this country and most others signed lumpy Sep 2013 #67

Oh puhleeze Carolina Sep 2013 #81

You forgot: morningfog Sep 2013 #33

For God's sake this is not about Iraq or didn't you notice. Different times, different problem. lumpy Sep 2013 #68

President Obama is lying to us, and should be impeached ProSense Sep 2013 #36

Post removed Post removed Sep 2013 #39

Few know what empeachment entails. They love to fling the word around trying to prove lumpy Sep 2013 #70

You don't care who the president is? bhikkhu Sep 2013 #37

I notice that people will say anything ignorant excuse to try and make an argument. lumpy Sep 2013 #71

"They"?! Surely you mean the Neo-Con Boys making the rounds of the talk shows.... Hekate Sep 2013 #41

You gotta do what you gotta do jsr Sep 2013 #45

The war lies are always in black and white felix_numinous Sep 2013 #47

Your post appears to be contructed of blather. lumpy Sep 2013 #53

re: timetable, see post #5 NightWatcher Sep 2013 #54

Yes, I heard Kerry's announcement re. Arabia's offer. As of yet the offer has not been accepted. lumpy Sep 2013 #66

Show me where the US has accepted the Arab's offer of money and I'll go along with you.??? lumpy Sep 2013 #72

Well I have asked so many people to tell me the lies that the administration has committed, but lumpy Sep 2013 #75

But it's a REAL WOLF THIS TIME, people! Honest! WinkyDink Sep 2013 #55

Those of us who live in SoCal tend to view life through the lens of the HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #58

Not just in California do people use movies as history books. lumpy Sep 2013 #73

I know whereof you speak. Half the time I'm Rick in 'Casablanca,' and the other half Napoleon HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #74