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In reply to the discussion: I don't give a shit about Rand Paul, or Obama's political standing, or House GOP motivations. [View all]HumansAndResources
(229 posts)171. Putin, but Nevermind China - Our "Trading Partner," Who Backs Putin
Last edited Fri Sep 6, 2013, 12:23 AM - Edit history (1)
Chinese News:
http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/808455.shtml#.UiiMsjZ9te5
It is still unclear which side in Syria used chemical weapons. It should be noted that the so-called evidence presented by the US and France is too ambiguous and insufficient to convict Syria, an entire country, of crimes, and military strikes on Syria will very likely cause many casualties. As countries built on the rule of law, (sic) the US and France have made reckless decisions.
The problem is both Washington and Paris do not really care about international law. Every action they take on Syria stems from their own political judgment of Syria's national situation. Such a judgment is also based on their geopolitical interests in this area. It is irrational to say that someone who wants to stop a war is "crazier" than someone who wants to start one.
Washington has made its judgment - even if it turns out that chemical weapons were not used by Syrian government troops, the US knows it won't be held to account for launching such a misguided war, as it did in Iraq. A journalist with the Associated Press has reportedly revealed the inside story, claiming that Syrian opposition forces mishandled chemical weapons. But this revelation has not been given enough attention since it was reported, either from the US government or Western media.
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To make matters worse, nobody is really being held responsible for the chaos left by (Iraq and Afghanistan). President Bush has left office and doesn't need to concern himself with the consequences. Obama still has about three years left in the White House. As long as he manages his remaining time well, nobody will ask him to be responsible for Syria in a few years' time.
Those of us who know better don't buy the "rule of law" bit for a second - "law" is for We Peons, while Wall St Banksters and NSA-Compliant Transnational Corporations get special laws written to "legalize" their traitorous, criminal behavior. In many respects, this piece is too kind and too soft. Still, it reflects China's position as not "on our (sic) side" in wanting to put Al Qaeda in charge of yet another nation in the region.
Given their position, does anyone find it odd that only Russia gets called out for being "obstructionist" in the Security Council? Perhaps China has agreed, behind the scenes, to "abstain" as they have on other, similar occasions.
Maybe, just maybe, this is because this war is about screwing Russia, who stubbornly will not sell out its resources and people to Western Transnational Power, and has NOTHING to do with the "humanitarian concerns" we are being fed. Only a complete idiot could actually believe our wars are about "helping people" given what is NOT being done in Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, and other "friendly dictatorships" of the Western Transnationals. Only a blind fool could miss the NGO / Foundation aid given to Chechnyan fundamentalist-terrorist 'rebels' to kill Russians - the same groups getting our (sic) help in Syria now, Lybia before, and Afghanistan from 1979 (Six months Before the USSR responded to the US/Terrorist Proxy army) through June of 2001 (date of last payment to the Taliban schoolgirl-murderers from the US Treasury).
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I don't give a shit about Rand Paul, or Obama's political standing, or House GOP motivations. [View all]
WilliamPitt
Sep 2013
OP
What's even more unreal is that they don't see themselves as using that type of thinking.
SammyWinstonJack
Sep 2013
#95
and it helps further empty out politics: bystanders can mumble "now the left and right are the same"
MisterP
Sep 2013
#74
Putin, but Nevermind China - Our "Trading Partner," Who Backs Putin
HumansAndResources
Sep 2013
#171
bush wanted to do this to syria. if this were bush, there would be marches
roguevalley
Sep 2013
#193
The are practically hemorrhaging gallons of tears through their eyes as I write this.
R. Daneel Olivaw
Sep 2013
#12
I'm a big supporter of President Obama, but not on everything. THIS is one of those things
kestrel91316
Sep 2013
#5
All of these 'bright' men can surely come up with a different solution than
sinkingfeeling
Sep 2013
#6
+1 million. Syria's already a clusterfuck and it's far from clear that the U.S.
winter is coming
Sep 2013
#58
Why doesn't PBO care about looking tough with America's REAL enemies - the Rethugs???
chimpymustgo
Sep 2013
#88
And over the top hyperbole is clearly not solely a right-wing phenomenon either.
JoePhilly
Sep 2013
#30
Would be true ... if I was know on DU for endless OPs with over the top hyperbole.
JoePhilly
Sep 2013
#37
The phrase 'you're wrong and you're boring made me think of you. Specifically.
Bluenorthwest
Sep 2013
#93
I knew it was a mistake when Obama, Kerry, and Bob started taking that damn supplement.
Dragonfli
Sep 2013
#32
It is simply the wrong thing to do to murder more people. We have no cause to be part of it.
Ford_Prefect
Sep 2013
#39
Of Course Hillary Supports the War - DLC = RNC = CFR = USCOC on Foreign Policy and Trade
HumansAndResources
Sep 2013
#183
I was just informed by that special someone that it's gunning for you and all Anarchists
Dragonfli
Sep 2013
#151
It has been quite obviously no friend of the left since it first developed limbs and crawled
Dragonfli
Sep 2013
#156
Being raised in a (generally) scientific family, I try to see each issue on a level plane and...
BlueJazz
Sep 2013
#50
Of course you are right. But for the sake of the partisans among us, it's worth noting
totodeinhere
Sep 2013
#67
Funny, I thought it was the pro-war guys who kept calling Assad "Hitler".
beerandjesus
Sep 2013
#107
this is silly: innocents will die for the US's so-called "credibility"
noiretextatique
Sep 2013
#134
I haven't seen such casual disregard for military force since the Bush years. Congratulations.
Marr
Sep 2013
#217
Your thinking on this is just Bizzarro-World, from top to bottom. Now you're saying Al Qaeda
Marr
Sep 2013
#220
I have to agree this is what the president decided to spend his political capital on
Arcanetrance
Sep 2013
#84
So sick of these lame attempts attempts to manipulate people. We need everyone we can get on
sabrina 1
Sep 2013
#94
Yes, I have actually. How about you? And I didn't have to attack them, all I had to do was to
sabrina 1
Sep 2013
#190
France Supports Re-Colonization By the "rebel" Terrorist-Proxy-Army, England's Paliament Voted 'No'
HumansAndResources
Sep 2013
#188
It's like I've said with the difference between Democrats and Republicans....
Spitfire of ATJ
Sep 2013
#103
Will, I really believe that Obama doesn't want to strike Syria and he knows the more he appears to
kelliekat44
Sep 2013
#104
"If Mr. Obama didn't want his balls in this particular vise, he should not have dangled them there."
ProSense
Sep 2013
#116
Pointing out facts that contradict a partisan loon's slanted mindset isn't an insult
ConservativeDemocrat
Sep 2013
#211
I wondered whose fault it was that Obama's credibility has taken a hit.
DisgustipatedinCA
Sep 2013
#139
But how are we going to fight a war on terror if we don't create more terrorists?
av8rdave
Sep 2013
#207
Keep in mind, George Bush set this all up, so it's a no-win situation for any president
Mellow Drama
Sep 2013
#224
Your derision of Obama and how he manages foreign policy is duly noted
Pretzel_Warrior
Sep 2013
#240