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nikto

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38. The quote...

Thu Sep 5, 2013, 09:28 PM

Sep 2013

"Poverty is a more powerful influence on the outcome of inner-city children than gestational exposure to cocaine,"
is like a declaration of war against Conservatism and neo-liberalism.

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'Crack baby' study ends with unexpected but clear result [View all] redqueen Sep 2013 OP

This is an honest researcher, to go where the data leads. "Poverty is a more powerful influence... Hekate Sep 2013 #1

Not really--over half the participants aren't accounted for, and when you eliminate preemies from msanthrope Sep 2013 #6

I agree. Crack babies are more likely to be born prematurely so it skews the data pnwmom Sep 2013 #26

They should have a different study to test crack bettyellen Sep 2013 #28

Illicit drug use, alcohol & tobacco, are significant risk factors for pre-term delivery and msanthrope Sep 2013 #29

I don't know why the outcome was unexpected Warpy Sep 2013 #2

It was a way to criminalize poverty and Cerridwen Sep 2013 #3

my first thought mercuryblues Sep 2013 #48

Sad but interesting data. Butterbean Sep 2013 #4

Had she compared them to other low birth weight, barely viable Warpy Sep 2013 #30

The kids I see withdrawing now take a lot longer than 48 hours. Butterbean Sep 2013 #40

So do heroin babies. 72 hour detox for them. Warpy Sep 2013 #43

I know, I can't believe meth babies survive, either. n/t Butterbean Sep 2013 #44

What happened to the other half of the kids in the original study? If you started with 224, but msanthrope Sep 2013 #5

Good question. Why don't you find an answer for the rest of us. Cerridwen Sep 2013 #8

Well, one expects answers to easy questions in the study itself. I find the whole "crack baby" msanthrope Sep 2013 #12

"One" also expects "one" to provide proof of "ones" Cerridwen Sep 2013 #13

One is expected to provide proof of one's questions? That's an awfully authoritarian msanthrope Sep 2013 #14

Authoritanism is embraced by DU. Cerridwen Sep 2013 #15

Wait, what? I am a bully now? For asking questions? Somebody better tell Hekate below that she is msanthrope Sep 2013 #17

Holy shit, you just can't win, can you? 7962 Sep 2013 #22

It's possible some would question my motivations for asking said questions. Fair enough, but msanthrope Sep 2013 #25

Why only study full term and near to term babies? Chellee Sep 2013 #23

Skew or disprove? See the problem? nt msanthrope Sep 2013 #24

So your suspicion Chellee Sep 2013 #34

Well--that's the problem right there. Scientific studies can't prove that msanthrope Sep 2013 #36

"preemies...got lopped off" Chellee Sep 2013 #39

Because premies have a plethora of problems. Warren Stupidity Sep 2013 #33

I know. I agree with you. Chellee Sep 2013 #35

The answer was in the artlcle. Mariana Sep 2013 #41

Good question--but sometimes subjects move away or drop out. It is voluntary, after all.... Hekate Sep 2013 #9

Oh--I agree that "crack baby" was as valid as "welfare queen" but what I am wondering about msanthrope Sep 2013 #11

Don't know. There are so many preemies these days, and for so many reasons. Hekate Sep 2013 #16

Yeah--but the kids we are discussing are 25 plus years old, not part of the current msanthrope Sep 2013 #18

You can probably track down other studies that specifically target them. Researchers really do want Hekate Sep 2013 #19

You bring up a good point about "level of exposure." Other than a blood test msanthrope Sep 2013 #21

They very likely moved out of the area Warpy Sep 2013 #31

do you really want to know Supersedeas Sep 2013 #42

Not surprising at all. One of the constants we see with the rapid advancement of scientific Egalitarian Thug Sep 2013 #7

That sentence in bold says it all: surrealAmerican Sep 2013 #10

that says it all heaven05 Sep 2013 #20

kick Liberal_in_LA Sep 2013 #27

Interesting. blackspade Sep 2013 #32

BUT----The Big American Question about this is... nikto Sep 2013 #37

The quote... nikto Sep 2013 #38

And we've known this for a long time. LWolf Sep 2013 #45

Duh? Yah think? nt bemildred Sep 2013 #46

Poverty and unemployment are the worst drugs of all, drugs forced onto the poor. ck4829 Sep 2013 #47

Despite the hysteria of the 90s, Crack Babies have proved... bvar22 Sep 2013 #49

Only 12 to college. What a tragedy. Barack_America Sep 2013 #50