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pinboy3niner

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18. I'm one of those who supported the Libya intervention and oppose this one
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 09:38 PM
Sep 2013

There are similarities, but in Libya the proximate event was not CW use, but imminent threat to a civilian population in Benghazi. Libyan tanks had already made one incursion into the city, and were poised to fire indiscriminately against the population.

In that case, the UN acted under its Responsibility to Protect (R2P) initiative. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsibility_to_protect

Syria is more a case of enforcement of "international norms" than R2P. Military action is only one of the responses contemplated by the UN as appropriate.

And while "standing up" for these principles is important, military action is not always the best response. Especially when it's doubtful that a military response will achieve its objective(s) and when the repurcussions of a military response may lead to a graver humanitarian crisis.

Sometimes the "cure" CAN be worse than the disease, and discretion is the better part of valor.

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Who claimed it was absolutely everyone? NoOneMan Sep 2013 #1
Libya is currently Harmony Blue Sep 2013 #2
Your most important sentence... NRaleighLiberal Sep 2013 #3
I totally disagree with that premise BTW (in the quote you mention) NoOneMan Sep 2013 #7
That's why I stated that members of Congress are leery of the risks. n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #23
Speaking of Libya... PoliticAverse Sep 2013 #4
I think you understood my point. ProSense Sep 2013 #9
Good post Harmony Blue Sep 2013 #10
Obama kills children via drone strikes. Do you support punitive actions against him, or just msongs Sep 2013 #5
Be patient, she's flipping through her binder for a response n/t whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #6
LOL! Purveyor Sep 2013 #8
No, you voted for him so I don't suppose you "support punitive actions against him." ProSense Sep 2013 #11
I'm confused MFrohike Sep 2013 #12
The infrastucture: ProSense Sep 2013 #13
Interesting MFrohike Sep 2013 #17
Libya is a fucking mess. Warren Stupidity Sep 2013 #14
Have you ProSense Sep 2013 #15
Libya is a fucking mess. Libya also had no allies. Warren Stupidity Sep 2013 #16
You said that, and you are confirming the point that the Syria is a stronger case. ProSense Sep 2013 #20
Libya is a fucking mess. A great example of why we shouldn't intervene. Warren Stupidity Sep 2013 #22
I'm one of those who supported the Libya intervention and oppose this one pinboy3niner Sep 2013 #18
Libyans are doing just fine. Iterate Sep 2013 #28
The geography of Libya makes it a bit more isolated than Syria is... JHB Sep 2013 #19
And the drumbeats get louder. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #21
This is the reality of the situation. ProSense Sep 2013 #24
We can only hope. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #25
From your keyboard to God's ears pinboy3niner Sep 2013 #26
It looks more likely to be the case ProSense Sep 2013 #27
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