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FourScore

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Thu Sep 5, 2013, 11:49 PM Sep 2013

A CAR that runs on fuel made from CO2 removed from the Atmosphere creating a carbon neutral loop! [View all]

Thu Sep 05, 2013 at 06:27 PM PDT
A CAR that runs on fuel made from CO2 removed from the Atmosphere creating a carbon neutral loop!
by Lefty CoasterFollow

This is absolutely brilliant! A British company Air Fuel Synthesis has found a way using Air Capture Technology to get vehicle fuel out of the atmosphere around us by extracting the constituent carbon and hydrogen from it.

Well the invisible video is there somewhere since it wouldn't embed so here's the LINK
Please do watch it!

The magic chemistry involves capturing carbon dioxide and water. Then through electrolysis, electric current isolating the hydrogen from the water, then having it react carbon dioxide to make liquid hydrocarbons. The outcome: a clean carbon neutral fuel, that holds the promise of dramatically reducing transportation's carbon footprint.

Its the creating of a closed loop by taking the carbon out of the atmosphere that's causing Global warming and um, and using it to make fuel.


The report said this technology is still in its early stages of development. If the energy inputs for the electric current needed came from sustainable sources this would be a green source of liquid hydrocarbon fuel.

This is really exciting to think about the possibilities this technology could open up for rapid conversion to a green transportation infrastructure without having to replace the existing vehicle fleet, with all the resources that would require. Air Capture Technology could conceivably be useful as a bridge technology to power older vehicles greenly as they are being phased out.

PlanetForward.org

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/09/05/1236655/-A-CAR-that-runs-on-fuel-made-from-CO2-removed-from-the-Atmosphere-creating-a-carbon-neutral-loop
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If it sounds too good to be true, it's probably not true. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #1
It's a matter of storing the hydrogen solarhydrocan Sep 2013 #28
Bullshit! longship Sep 2013 #2
I'm not sure they are claiming to make energy from nothing. BlueStreak Sep 2013 #5
I still say bullshit. longship Sep 2013 #8
They claim they put energy in to H and CO2 and get out burnable hydrocarbons Recursion Sep 2013 #17
2nd law of Thermo says it's not worth it. longship Sep 2013 #39
It's not being touted as perpetual motion or even energy gain. Jim Lane Sep 2013 #43
I understood they would get Hydrogen from the electrolysis, to mix with CO2 they got from air. AnotherDreamWeaver Sep 2013 #12
Well, "remove" for a hot minute until we burn it again Recursion Sep 2013 #23
What if it were not turned into usable fuel? BlueStreak Sep 2013 #37
Solar power isn't directly burnable and we like to burn things Recursion Sep 2013 #20
People need to re-read references on perpetual motion machines whenever an idea like this comes up stevenleser Sep 2013 #9
Indeed, I thought the Eddington quote was all I needed. longship Sep 2013 #11
Not saying this will work, but it wouldn't be a perpetual motion machine-- unless Marr Sep 2013 #13
They aren't talking about net energy but about the form the energy takes Recursion Sep 2013 #18
I'd add, quite a few people doubt one of Maxwell's equations Recursion Sep 2013 #27
But that's physics. This thing is a scam. longship Sep 2013 #38
They aren't claiming over unity energy production whopis01 Sep 2013 #47
Indeed. That's an entirely different matter. longship Sep 2013 #48
Lol - all worth it for the Emily Litella reference. n/t whopis01 Sep 2013 #54
Hear,Hear ... GeorgeGist Sep 2013 #46
But what will the trees eat? nt kelliekat44 Sep 2013 #3
It looks promising sakabatou Sep 2013 #4
Lost me at "magic". MindPilot Sep 2013 #6
Cue the climate doomer skeptics(of mitigation prospects, that is) yelling, "impossible!". AverageJoe90 Sep 2013 #7
No, it cannot work. You cannot violate the second law of thermodynamics. See my comment above. nt stevenleser Sep 2013 #10
And it's not being violated. Energy goes into the system at the beginning Recursion Sep 2013 #25
Yeah, those stupid fucking scientists and their "Laws" of physics! NutmegYankee Sep 2013 #16
You're missing the point Recursion Sep 2013 #19
Unless the laws of enthalpy have changed, that's going to be difficult Recursion Sep 2013 #14
Did you mean entropy? NutmegYankee Sep 2013 #21
No, I meant enthalpy Recursion Sep 2013 #22
I don't disgree it's better, but NutmegYankee Sep 2013 #24
I agree, I just meant there's nothing here that on its face goes against Boltzmann Recursion Sep 2013 #26
Solar power to charge batteries is better. joshcryer Sep 2013 #33
How much electricity it takes bluedeathray Sep 2013 #15
Another potential route away from fossil fuels liberal N proud Sep 2013 #29
More interesting for air transport, I'd say; we had a thread on the company last year muriel_volestrangler Sep 2013 #30
magic chemistry.....interesting choice of words. ileus Sep 2013 #31
Alchemy is making a comeback? FSogol Sep 2013 #41
interesting but its just electrolysis which requires lots of electricity. DCBob Sep 2013 #32
Just burn hydrogen and you take carbon completely out of the equation. hobbit709 Sep 2013 #34
This sounds a little to inefficient to be in vehicles themselves Thav Sep 2013 #35
Doesn't pass the smell test Botany Sep 2013 #36
I'll park it next to my car that runs on wishful thinking! FSogol Sep 2013 #40
And people say.... CanSocDem Sep 2013 #42
The C=O bond in CO2 is extremely stable and requires substantial energy to break struggle4progress Sep 2013 #44
The technology isn't that far-fetched jmowreader Sep 2013 #45
There would be nothing like the perpetual motion machine to stir one's interests but for one thing. 1-Old-Man Sep 2013 #49
Not energy efficient, but has the advantage of working within our current infrastructure. Xithras Sep 2013 #50
As I imagine others on this thread are all over by now, it's a way to synthesize a fuel gristy Sep 2013 #51
It's only a neutral CO2 loop if the electricity used is from renewables NickB79 Sep 2013 #52
If we use solar and wind for the electricity then it may make sense. roamer65 Sep 2013 #53
Ethanol is made from CO2 removed from the atmosphere. gulliver Sep 2013 #55
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