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MFrohike

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46. It's actually a very simple question

Thu Sep 5, 2013, 10:49 PM

Sep 2013

Do you want the US involved or not? That is a bright line question that has to be answered before getting into anything else.

Grayson is no doubt grandstanding a bit. He's a politican, it comes with the territory. I suspect part of his opposition is based on the fact that the factors that caused the gradual decline of the middle class and the last class have only gotten worse. Foreign ventures often overshadow events at home, which is sad, because it's the events at home that have lasting significance.

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Rep. Alan Grayson on Syria: Congress Should Reject "War Mongering" and Focus on Problems at Home [View all] joelz Sep 2013 OP

He's about as helpful as a Republican right now. Instead of reasoned discourse, TwilightGardener Sep 2013 #1

+1,000,000 lamp_shade Sep 2013 #3

Grayson is RIGHT. You need to calm your nerves, open your mind and pay attention. chimpymustgo Sep 2013 #44

Grayson may be pitching to Joe Six pack because he has to........ wandy Sep 2013 #5

"RED LINE!!" is reasoned discourse? leftstreet Sep 2013 #6

Actually, the prohibition on chem warfare is well known and a reasonable position to TwilightGardener Sep 2013 #7

Mature politicians can do it without invoking Hitler leftstreet Sep 2013 #8

I don't think Obama did that, did he? TwilightGardener Sep 2013 #9

Kerry doesn't speak for the Administration? leftstreet Sep 2013 #10

And Kerry is reasoned discourse? broiles Sep 2013 #14

Often, but not always. He sometimes veers into language and analogies that don't work on me. TwilightGardener Sep 2013 #19

The irony is, the Republicans are the ones who ARE being helpful on this right now. beerandjesus Sep 2013 #16

I'd like to hear pros and cons before deciding where to come down on this issue. TwilightGardener Sep 2013 #18

I begin every debate on war from the same position: NO. Maedhros Sep 2013 #21

OK. My first position is usually: WHY? TwilightGardener Sep 2013 #24

That's the second question Maedhros Sep 2013 #42

I'll play lark Sep 2013 #28

+1 JustAnotherGen Sep 2013 #29

What's wrong with appealing to the people? The people aren't stupid. David__77 Sep 2013 #27

He's not explaining a difficult situation. He's absorbing popular sentiment and pitching it back TwilightGardener Sep 2013 #33

I think he's trusting the people. David__77 Sep 2013 #34

Throughout American history, populism isn't always beneficial. TwilightGardener Sep 2013 #35

It's actually a very simple question MFrohike Sep 2013 #46

Rep. Grayson is right. I appreciate him speaking out on this Autumn Sep 2013 #2

Agreed. nt Xipe Totec Sep 2013 #4

Me too. zeemike Sep 2013 #11

Me too! BuelahWitch Sep 2013 #15

So do I eissa Sep 2013 #26

+1000000000 woo me with science Sep 2013 #38

I am not surprised a bit about those on this site who support death. Bombing will kill a lot of JRLeft Sep 2013 #12

What happened to this party? tblue Sep 2013 #32

But we have no money to Focus on Problems at Home Catherina Sep 2013 #13

Damn straight! Think of what one $700 billion payment to the MIC could do here! Initech Sep 2013 #17

NO "War For Profit." blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #20

We have our problems we have to deal with here and we are not the world's police. Chisox08 Sep 2013 #22

Congress should have been HappyMe Sep 2013 #23

What give us the right to decide what type of violence is acceptable? Ganja Ninja Sep 2013 #25

Chem warfare, WMD use, has historically been an international no-no. TwilightGardener Sep 2013 #31

But it's ok to sell them then comdem the dictator you sold them to because .. Ganja Ninja Sep 2013 #36

I don't know--is Obama bound by what other Presidents have done decades ago? TwilightGardener Sep 2013 #39

Then it should be handled internationally. eom Kermitt Gribble Sep 2013 #37

I'm rapidly getting to the point of losing ALL respect for the US govt. WHEN CRABS ROAR Sep 2013 #41

K&R n/t DeSwiss Sep 2013 #30

Thank you, Rep. Grayson. woo me with science Sep 2013 #40

Great, thanks for sharing. felix_numinous Sep 2013 #43

Grayson should replace Pelosi Faryn Balyncd Sep 2013 #45

Alan! AzDar Sep 2013 #47

Representative Grayson is representing felix_numinous Sep 2013 #48