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Bluenorthwest

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21. Did they? I'm not part of their circle, so I don't know that your testimony is correct.

Fri Sep 6, 2013, 10:41 AM

Sep 2013

I can tell you this, the entire question is absurd. The President claims to be a Pragmatist so I judge him according to his actions, the only observable proof of that which 'is' being the actions taken. Are his actions in accord with those who like war? To some extent, absolutely. So labels and rhetoric are meaningless next to actions.
Of course on other days the President claims to be a devoted Christian, and I could on those days judge him according to that set of teachings, which says 'live by war, die by war' and declares that anyone who harms or mistreats anyone else is harming or mistreating Jesus himself. According to Jesus, he is the prisoner in Gitmo with the feeding tube.
So is this phase 'Pragmatist Obama' or 'Devout Man of Faith Obama'?

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If Pres. Obama is a tool of PNAC and the MIC, why did they try so hard to keep him out of office... [View all] brooklynite Sep 2013 OP

To trick us into thinking he's NOT a party to the evil plan, naturally. JoePhilly Sep 2013 #1

They didn't - Wall St financed him FreakinDJ Sep 2013 #11

I was very confident that some one would agree with my JoePhilly Sep 2013 #12

There's bigger tools out there, for sure. Scuba Sep 2013 #2

They just throw shit out there to see how much sticks. Tippy Sep 2013 #3

I take it you are not a student of the techniques of the confidence men Vinnie From Indy Sep 2013 #4

One thing the PNACers don't want to see is just what Obama did: call for a vote kelliekat44 Sep 2013 #5

It is a win win regarding who enters the WH Harmony Blue Sep 2013 #6

For me the question is, if he's NOT, why is he acting like he is? MotherPetrie Sep 2013 #7

Well said +1 Harmony Blue Sep 2013 #8

Bingo. Good question. Little Star Sep 2013 #9

Exactly. Remember WW II when we had 2 Democratic Presidents who actually wanted to end a war? AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #43

! SammyWinstonJack Sep 2013 #46

DU rec... SidDithers Sep 2013 #10

I refer you to this. hobbit709 Sep 2013 #13

The third party panderers want..nay..NEED to push false equivalencies. great white snark Sep 2013 #14

I think it's futile to project motive and it doesn't make any difference cali Sep 2013 #15

It's a wee bit late to be arguing about *whether* he is. woo me with science Sep 2013 #16

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I don't sense that he's bought into the admonitions about that bunch bigtree Sep 2013 #17

That kind of CT rant treestar Sep 2013 #18

Neo-DU doesn't care a lick about the answer. tridim Sep 2013 #19

+ a million Number23 Sep 2013 #28

Nailed it... SidDithers Sep 2013 #31

Truth is complicated, he like most modern politicians "works for" many bosses, each with a differing Dragonfli Sep 2013 #39

+1 Vinnie From Indy Sep 2013 #57

Did they? I'm not part of their circle, so I don't know that your testimony is correct. Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #21

Who says they did? Myrina Sep 2013 #22

The MIC wouldn't let anyone into the Presidency that they didn't have the goods on. FarCenter Sep 2013 #23

What many at DU don't understand is those with good intentions are more dangerous geek tragedy Sep 2013 #24

The contemporary office of the President of the United States is a tool of PNAC and MIC..... marmar Sep 2013 #25

Yes, and the president is told... CoffeeCat Sep 2013 #61

Why is he alligning himself with their policies now? Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2013 #26

Better to install a fellow ideologue agent46 Sep 2013 #27

LOL! Yeah they used their powerful weapon: McCain leftstreet Sep 2013 #29

Precisely. jsr Sep 2013 #30

This is what I was going to say Hydra Sep 2013 #32

After 4 years of Hillary, the GOP will be washed cleaned leftstreet Sep 2013 #35

That sounds right Hydra Sep 2013 #38

Me, too. woo me with science Sep 2013 #47

You know Hutzpa Sep 2013 #34

Yes, and Palin, too. woo me with science Sep 2013 #37

Some of these stuff should not even be entertained Hutzpa Sep 2013 #33

I'd rather use the correct size wrench to do a job...but a pair of pliers works too. The Link Sep 2013 #36

Only if you want to round out your nuts. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #42

Because the other guy was an even better tool. n/t malthaussen Sep 2013 #40

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They like white tools better. polichick Sep 2013 #44

Don't you know this is all six dimensional chess? Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #45

They need to maintain the illusion of democracy in America. Zorra Sep 2013 #48

False premise. If a candidate is "viable" then they are acceptable to these folks. TheKentuckian Sep 2013 #49

"they" ran mccain and romney. doesn't seem that "they" really put forth much effort at all.. frylock Sep 2013 #50

^^^This! BuelahWitch Sep 2013 #55

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Just for curiosities sake, who did you support for pres last election? ETA, FRP. uppityperson Sep 2013 #53

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That quote is from Lenin, not Marx BainsBane Sep 2013 #60

lots of projection....like vomit spanone Sep 2013 #52

Not to mention Dempsey's obvious discomfort with attacking Syria BeyondGeography Sep 2013 #54

He isn't in cahoots with them AgingAmerican Sep 2013 #58

Reverse Psychology, and the Loyal Opposition has to be staffed to use it nolabels Sep 2013 #59