There were arguments that intervention in Libya was not in the U.S. national security interest

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28. Libyans are doing just fine.

I check back on occasion with some of the old sources and some new ones. Local news from a local perspective is most informative; a good share of it would be highly praised here if it occurred in SF or Portland.

The scope and scale of violence has gradually declined -it didn't just switch off when the world press left. The million refugees are home. They are rebuilding and training for the health system, infrastructure, a new judiciary, a new educational system. Most of the problems are legacy issues, like corruption, like old conflicts. They're working on it, often thoughtfully and in ways that wouldn't immediately occur to an American. The closer you look, the more remarkable it gets.

I know that that isn't the consensus on DU, and I don't really care. If people are interested in learning something, the chance is there for the effort. If not, if dismissing an entire people with the word "hellhole" keeps someone cautious about another intervention, then so be it.