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In reply to the discussion: Per the NY Times--no vote would be tough love for Obama, good for America [View all]blm
(113,061 posts)Poppy certainly never wasted a moment of his time in the 60s and 70s. He was known during the Nixon years for using blackmail schemes that HE constructed against members of his own party if they intended to vote differently than he wanted them to vote. That benign, wimpy presence act has always been just that....an act. There will always be elite factions at the NSA and the CIA that are loyal only to BushInc. The entire security and intel network was developed by Poppy and he even handled the outsourcing and privatization of most of the duties at firms with longtime loyalties and ties to HIM. No 'president' will ever gain full control of the NSA and CIA - it is not structured that way. Unless, of course, that president is a Bush or a close crony.