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Baitball Blogger

(46,703 posts)
31. I disagree with you.
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 04:44 PM
Sep 2013

When you are trying to pin down the causes of corruption, you have to recognize the social dynamics that are peculiar to the region. There are factors that are peculiar to Seminole County that may not be found anywhere else. For example, here, in the mid eighties, a strong anti-government organization formed under the guise of property rights interests. Among them were lawyers and judges. They either owned land, or were developers, or some combination thereof. That had a major impact on the course of events that followed. Through their private, monthly barbecue meetings a good ole boy network was allowed to take hold in this place. In those meetings local key players were able to mingle with state congressional hopefuls. Perhaps this was the beginning of the meets and greets. Perhaps this was a vetting arena to determine who was a political friendly, and who was not. The point is, that it happened with little attention from the press. This was occurring through the eighties and nineties when the internet was not yet a factor, and camera phones were not as prominent as they are today.

Lots went on without attention from the press in those days. In my city alone there was an attempt to take on a developer who had a firm vested interest in a certain private property. It was property that a special interest group did not want to see developed. What happened would have been comical, if it weren't for the way it affected so many people in such a negative manner. The city, which never before paid attention to State regulations, suddenly wanted to use them to require land amendment changes that would have delayed and bankrupt the developer. That would have made the powerful local forces of the time, happy. The problem they had, was that good ole boy city attorneys didn't leave them much to work with.

I can see now why the case was quickly settled. Anyone who looked at the case closely and examined the evidence would have seen all kinds of implausible legal reasoning. The city's big legal strategy was to keep the venue to a county courtroom where they hoped to get a local judge that everybody knew was prejudiced in their favor. That's how good ole boys think. It's a lot of pseudo law mixed in with a lot of bravado. However, the whole case fell apart when the plaintiff sued them in FEDERAL court. When it became obvious that minor details, such as legal malpractice, was about to go public, everything was settled quickly with a two million dollar settlement and a confidentiality clause.

That confidentiality clause has wronged a great many people because it has kept them victimized by the local circumstances; as it has also allowed the wrong-doers to continue with careers that should have come to an abrupt end in the nineties.

So, again, I disagree with you. To pretend that all corruption is exactly the same, is to lose the small nuances that allow us to find a wedge where we can begin to open the tight shell that is giving them shelter. In my case, it might involve lawyers who have a stake in past wrong-doings. In another area of Florida, it might involve another kind of government collapse. In sum, I think it would be wrong to try to broad-brush these things, because it would have the negative effect of creating a feeling of defeat before we even get started.

Except that justice (one way or another) will eventually catch up to George. NV Whino Sep 2013 #1
Which means, that someone's life will be altered by his recklessness, before Baitball Blogger Sep 2013 #6
Possibly NV Whino Sep 2013 #17
This is an ancient aspect of the human condition. Vinnie From Indy Sep 2013 #2
This area is in desperate need of a legal watershed. Baitball Blogger Sep 2013 #3
He's going to feel invincible to the wrong person one day wild bird Sep 2013 #4
What always concerned me about that verdict is that it sent the message Baitball Blogger Sep 2013 #7
+1 JustAnotherGen Sep 2013 #26
That's it. Baitball Blogger Sep 2013 #33
I'm afraid that not just Zimmerman but liberalhistorian Sep 2013 #35
ITA with everything you've written JustAnotherGen Sep 2013 #41
I would take whatever she says with a grain of salt. Remember she stood behind her winterpark Sep 2013 #5
The only thing that will make her marketable are tidbits about George that we don't know Baitball Blogger Sep 2013 #8
How much weight do you give the testimony of someone in a divorce against their ex? Donald Ian Rankin Sep 2013 #9
I see it the other way. Baitball Blogger Sep 2013 #11
And then there's pipi_k Sep 2013 #44
This is all part of the plan Bunnahabhain Sep 2013 #10
Zimmerman will be dead or in prison within three years. onehandle Sep 2013 #12
"It's a different world down here" - what a bunch of hooey DrDan Sep 2013 #13
No. There is something going on down here. Baitball Blogger Sep 2013 #14
and you really believe that does not happen everywhere? DrDan Sep 2013 #15
I think her name was Grace Rayburn or Raburn or Raborn? Baitball Blogger Sep 2013 #16
Grace Rabold DrDan Sep 2013 #18
I can only tackle the opponent I'm faced with. Baitball Blogger Sep 2013 #20
the point was that these things happen all over - not just central FL DrDan Sep 2013 #28
I disagree with you. Baitball Blogger Sep 2013 #31
I never said the local issues were not unique - just that there were issues DrDan Sep 2013 #34
You must be talking of San Diego City nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #19
If there is a pattern that can be discerned, Baitball Blogger Sep 2013 #21
You know what, I am starting to blog it nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #22
That was the plan. Baitball Blogger Sep 2013 #23
Many bloggers were small potatoes nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #24
Not smart? Woof_Woof Sep 2013 #25
You really need to work on improving your ripostes. Baitball Blogger Sep 2013 #32
I gave up defending Kansas politics long ago. n-t Logical Sep 2013 #36
I hear you . . . Johnson County took the same heat as Seminole County for quite a while DrDan Sep 2013 #42
After the not guilty verdict, OJ thought he was invincible too dem in texas Sep 2013 #27
Of course he feels that way, anyone would that got away with murder. Rex Sep 2013 #29
she isn't sure "she ever really knew him" hfojvt Sep 2013 #30
Aw, someone is badmouthing your hero. Boo hoo. 2ndAmForComputers Sep 2013 #37
Sickening, isn't it? liberalhistorian Sep 2013 #39
Sounds like she's telling the truth liberalhistorian Sep 2013 #38
He'll either run into the wrong cop after speeding malaise Sep 2013 #40
Black cop. 2ndAmForComputers Sep 2013 #45
ROFL malaise Sep 2013 #46
I wonder if she's setting things up for a book deal davidpdx Sep 2013 #43
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