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crackerjax

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59. Its called the DROP
Sun Dec 18, 2011, 12:14 PM
Dec 2011

Deferred Retirement Option Plan. Costs the government nothing.

When someone has a defined benefit retirement plan, they and the employer put money into a fund to buy an annuity. The longer they work, the longer they put money into the fund, the more money the annuitant (retiree) gets when they start drawing from it (date of retirement). If the government is paying someone $100,000 a year in salary, plus $10,000 a year into their retirement, plus the employee is putting $10,000 of their own salary into their retirement... well that's their normal working situation. When they elect to use the DROP, the government stops putting money into their retirement (saving $10,000 a year for that employee) the employee stops putting money into their retirement (saving them $10,000 a year) and the annuity starts paying out, though usually to a separate money market or no risk or similar account until they stop working, when they have access to that money. Take it all at once (and get taxed on the $50,000/yr of retirement benefits x however many years they used the drop; max I've ever seen is 8, 3 and 5 are common) or do a 1035 exchange and transfer that money into an IRA where they get taxed on the money as they pull it out.

Anyway, this does directly cost the government money if they created a retirement plan for him and have to pay it out eventually, it just means he's getting it early. This is a benefit commonly asked for by unions (mine included) and very coveted.

Why did they deny this to the teacher's union...it inspires the workers to work for those extra years (3, 5, 8) at their highest pay level (though your retirement pay is lower by retiring those many years earlier) when it'd be cheaper to get rid of the senior teachers and hire new ones at half price. Thats what's going on with registered nurses in south florida.

Hope this illuminates the confusion a bit.

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perry must bathe in slime to be able Angry Dragon Dec 2011 #1
He needs cash? liberal N proud Dec 2011 #2
Sounds more like Newest Reality Dec 2011 #3
Eh, whatever. He earned it, he's entitled to it. eggplant Dec 2011 #4
If that were his, and his dick-head party's, stance on the matter.... Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2011 #10
True. Peregrine Took Dec 2011 #42
The teachers he ripped off earned it too. sellitman Dec 2011 #46
"Entitled," Of course the peasants must have their "entitlements" removed. dotymed Dec 2011 #53
And don't worry, mr. 10th amendment solution will have his hand out when he turns 65 Javaman Dec 2011 #5
if he was a Democrat oldhippydude Dec 2011 #6
For a party that hates government aint_no_life_nowhere Dec 2011 #7
Great point! I'm constantly astounded that none of those debate mods never bring this up. Peregrine Took Dec 2011 #45
I wonder how many of "our" officials dotymed Dec 2011 #54
Typical Perry catrose Dec 2011 #8
3 1/2 years and 25 million later, and the Govs mansion is still not ready to be occupied. WTF? Saphire Dec 2011 #12
Dunno. Special Texas accounting catrose Dec 2011 #24
Its called the DROP crackerjax Dec 2011 #59
Thanks for explaining it catrose Dec 2011 #66
SOCIALIST SCAM ARTIST librechik Dec 2011 #9
R#10 & K n/t UTUSN Dec 2011 #11
That is something common with public sector jobs all over doc03 Dec 2011 #13
What evidence do you have that it is "common"? spooky3 Dec 2011 #15
USA Today did a story on public pensions earlier this week. doc03 Dec 2011 #19
This article provides more info than single anecdotes, but it does NOT provide evidence spooky3 Dec 2011 #29
I live near an Army base. dotymed Dec 2011 #55
from what I've seen, military retirees are among the few groups with extremely favorable provisions spooky3 Dec 2011 #60
I had 23 years into my state retirement program & retired at 62. Jackpine Radical Dec 2011 #58
20 years in mine, will cover only about 1/3 of my pay, even with substantial employee contributions spooky3 Dec 2011 #61
I think for the most part these double-dipping opportunities are reserved Jackpine Radical Dec 2011 #63
and certain police and military, but a small minority. What bugs me is that some people use spooky3 Dec 2011 #64
It is not common. sulphurdunn Dec 2011 #16
The only thing I have a problem with is someone that retires from a job then doc03 Dec 2011 #22
We're not criticizing him for double dipping Lordquinton Dec 2011 #23
Did he break the law? That's like the millionaires that say tax me more but doc03 Dec 2011 #25
I have been flamed on DU because I complained about having the hell taxed out of my doc03 Dec 2011 #26
Don't worry, I'm with you. Retirement should be for retirement. Sirveri Dec 2011 #32
I have a colleague sulphurdunn Dec 2011 #35
No animosity, just facts. dotymed Dec 2011 #56
What's Odd About Loophole Greed? otohara Dec 2011 #14
hmm...pay him to get tf outta office? I'm in! lol CarrieLynne Dec 2011 #17
Grats Rick, way to legally milk the taxpayers !! cstanleytech Dec 2011 #18
How can you legally do that? Ken Burch Dec 2011 #20
Not great but a good system for some. whistler162 Dec 2011 #21
Taxes Are for the Little People, Benefits Are for the One-Percenters (N/T) LarryNM Dec 2011 #27
aka do as I say, not as I do cyglet Dec 2011 #28
Too late to matter. mwb970 Dec 2011 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author Obamanaut Dec 2011 #31
classic two faced repuke geckosfeet Dec 2011 #33
Who wouldn't want 50% more cash? I'm gonna makit rain up in here! Sorry I made it rain. I'll clean t WingDinger Dec 2011 #34
Reminds me of Ayn Rand taking Social Security and Medicare under her married name. stevenleser Dec 2011 #36
Or, Rush Limbaugh taking unemployment benefits NewJeffCT Dec 2011 #38
ROFLMAO, I didnt know about that one! stevenleser Dec 2011 #39
Of course NewJeffCT Dec 2011 #40
Meanwhile, he'll complain about public employee pensions NewJeffCT Dec 2011 #37
That is what the RW is all about...HYPOCRISY SHRED Dec 2011 #44
I wonder why this dosen't surprise me! yortsed snacilbuper Dec 2011 #41
This is about HYPOCRISY SHRED Dec 2011 #43
and I would bet large sums of money that zbdent Dec 2011 #47
Yup, he's a hypocrite varelse Dec 2011 #48
Another hypocrite fleecing the sheeple. HCE SuiGeneris Dec 2011 #49
They are not hypocrits.... Bozvotros Dec 2011 #50
LOL Scurrilous Dec 2011 #51
"I'll never be able to pay this country back." Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #52
…so he truly is a Republican down to the core, living out the Golden Rule, Jackpine Radical Dec 2011 #57
Sadly... GTurck Dec 2011 #62
No hope for WH oklib1971 Dec 2011 #65
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