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In reply to the discussion: Photo: Naval Airpower [View all]ellisonz
(27,776 posts)99. Such pro-military-industrial complex, anti-New Deal arguments!
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James K. Galbraith: Don't kid yourself, it's a depression
SOURCE: Washington Monthly (March-April) (3-1-09)
James K. Galbraiths new book is The Predator State: How Conservatives Abandoned the Free Market and Why Liberals Should Too. He holds the Lloyd M. Bentsen Jr. Chair in Government/Business Relations at the LBJ School of Public Affairs, University of Texas at Austin, and is senior scholar with the Levy Economics Institute.
If the banking system is crippled, then to be effective the public sector must do much, much more. How much more? By how much can spending be raised in a real depression? And does this remedy work? Recent months have seen much debate over the economic effects of the New Deal, and much repetition of the commonplace that the effort was too small to end the Great Depression, something achieved, it is said, only by World War II. A new paper by the economist Marshall Auerback has usefully corrected this record. Auerback plainly illustrates by how much Roosevelts ambition exceeded anything yet seen in this crisis:
In other words, Roosevelt employed Americans on a vast scale, bringing the unemployment rates down to levels that were tolerable, even before the warfrom 25 percent in 1933 to below 10 percent in 1936, if you count those employed by the government as employed, which they surely were. In 1937, Roosevelt tried to balance the budget, the economy relapsed again, and in 1938 the New Deal was relaunched. This again brought unemployment down to about 10 percent, still before the war.
The New Deal rebuilt America physically, providing a foundation (the TVAs power plants, for example) from which the mobilization of World War II could be launched. But it also saved the country politically and morally, providing jobs, hope, and confidence that in the end democracy was worth preserving. There were many, in the 1930s, who did not think so.
More: http://hnn.us/node/69415
SOURCE: Washington Monthly (March-April) (3-1-09)
James K. Galbraiths new book is The Predator State: How Conservatives Abandoned the Free Market and Why Liberals Should Too. He holds the Lloyd M. Bentsen Jr. Chair in Government/Business Relations at the LBJ School of Public Affairs, University of Texas at Austin, and is senior scholar with the Levy Economics Institute.
If the banking system is crippled, then to be effective the public sector must do much, much more. How much more? By how much can spending be raised in a real depression? And does this remedy work? Recent months have seen much debate over the economic effects of the New Deal, and much repetition of the commonplace that the effort was too small to end the Great Depression, something achieved, it is said, only by World War II. A new paper by the economist Marshall Auerback has usefully corrected this record. Auerback plainly illustrates by how much Roosevelts ambition exceeded anything yet seen in this crisis:
"[Roosevelts] government hired about 60 per cent of the unemployed in public works and conservation projects that planted a billion trees, saved the whooping crane, modernized rural America, and built such diverse projects as the Cathedral of Learning in Pittsburgh, the Montana state capitol, much of the Chicago lakefront, New Yorks Lincoln Tunnel and Triborough Bridge complex, the Tennessee Valley Authority and the aircraft carriers Enterprise and Yorktown. It also built or renovated 2,500 hospitals, 45,000 schools, 13,000 parks and playgrounds, 7,800 bridges, 700,000 miles of roads, and a thousand airfields. And it employed 50,000 teachers, rebuilt the countrys entire rural school system, and hired 3,000 writers, musicians, sculptors and painters, including Willem de Kooning and Jackson Pollock."
In other words, Roosevelt employed Americans on a vast scale, bringing the unemployment rates down to levels that were tolerable, even before the warfrom 25 percent in 1933 to below 10 percent in 1936, if you count those employed by the government as employed, which they surely were. In 1937, Roosevelt tried to balance the budget, the economy relapsed again, and in 1938 the New Deal was relaunched. This again brought unemployment down to about 10 percent, still before the war.
The New Deal rebuilt America physically, providing a foundation (the TVAs power plants, for example) from which the mobilization of World War II could be launched. But it also saved the country politically and morally, providing jobs, hope, and confidence that in the end democracy was worth preserving. There were many, in the 1930s, who did not think so.
More: http://hnn.us/node/69415
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Yep, we know doubt have the most advanced military in the world and then we have
teddy51
Feb 2012
#1
One doesn't need to be a militarist to appreciate the beauty of formation flying.
Johnny Rico
Feb 2012
#16
In the 1970's and 1980's we faced an enemy that had (somewhat) comparable power
Hippo_Tron
Feb 2012
#35
Ah, the intoxication of solving the worlds problems with a fleet of killing machines.
sad sally
Feb 2012
#28
So why title it "naval airpower'? Your first concern was the power it projects
muriel_volestrangler
Feb 2012
#57
The title and descriptive text were copied and pasted from the website where
Johnny Rico
Feb 2012
#62
Cool! A tiger cruise has family members on board. It's like open house for sailors kids
Brother Buzz
Feb 2012
#12
The military is the most sacred of our Sacred Cows and loves to strut its $tuff.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Feb 2012
#23
Yes, lets bring our military down to thesame level it was in 1941, #17 in the world.
oneshooter
Feb 2012
#36
Translation: Will come in handy if the GOP ever gets their wet dream of a war with Iran.
ellisonz
Feb 2012
#70
Ok, regarding aircraft carrier battle groups, let's follow President Obama's advice:
Johnny Rico
Feb 2012
#77