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avaistheone1

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39. I just wish our decision-makers would give some thought

Sat Sep 7, 2013, 02:27 AM

Sep 2013

to that gem you just posted:

And while we are proficient at removing them, we have failed in leaving something better.

It sounds like something good old Walter Cronkite would pen in summing things up about Libya and about our other Middle East forays.

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Update on the last country we said we saved [View all] avaistheone1 Sep 2013 OP

K&R n/t Metatron Sep 2013 #1

Libya has become Somalia except with oil. hobbit709 Sep 2013 #2

It sure has. avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #5

Big oil got what they wanted. A cut in production to keep prices high. hobbit709 Sep 2013 #6

Your're right. The only mention I have heard of that was a quick avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #11

$1.1 billion went to MIC in 2011 for this little project jsr Sep 2013 #3

We should consider it a hefty investment in our future, avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #4

Mission Accomplished deutsey Sep 2013 #7

Look the imperialists don't give a flying fuck about local populations malaise Sep 2013 #8

Isn't the point of the article that they did not get oil? oberliner Sep 2013 #12

Keeping oil OFF the market keeps the price high. HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #16

So the imperialists (particularly the UK and France since Libya's oil went to Europe) wanted Libya pampango Sep 2013 #20

Depends what oil you hold or can grab. HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #23

Yes, Libya is Syria now. And anyone who believes 'we care about the victims' and who followed what sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #43

+1000. nt. polly7 Sep 2013 #45

boy, who coulda seen THAT coming! KG Sep 2013 #9

All sides seem happy Gaddafi is gone even if they agree on little else. pampango Sep 2013 #10

There are several excerpts in the article you cited indicating that the avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #15

The transition from dictator (or king or tsar) to a more open government is rarely smooth. pampango Sep 2013 #17

What are you suggesting we do to help? avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #18

I don't have a magic answer. I suppose UN peacekeepers would be a good idea pampango Sep 2013 #22

Don't be misled by international sources or by grudges from the disempowered. Iterate Sep 2013 #40

Moral: Let dictators be dictators? oberliner Sep 2013 #13

That is the key question. HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #19

"fledgling democracy"? Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #25

Well, democracy was the intent, supposedly, in Iraq.Afghanistan HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #28

That's because we promote Capitalism and all those young people rising up are a buncha hippies. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #32

Exactly. Thinking like an adult is no fun and makes for boring DU posts. nt SunSeeker Sep 2013 #26

They refer to Libya as a great glowing successful intervention NightWatcher Sep 2013 #14

So...much better to have kept Ghadaffi in power? brooklynite Sep 2013 #21

No question dictators are bad. HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #29

I just wish our decision-makers would give some thought avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #39

Is your assertion that if we were to assist them in rebuilding Ghadaffi would rise from the dead? Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #42

Greed does wonders. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #24

Mission accomplished. idwiyo Sep 2013 #27

Things will smooth out after a new dictator emerges from the chaos. The_Casual_Observer Sep 2013 #30

But, but - Iraq is all peaceful and stable now! ConcernedCanuk Sep 2013 #31

Heck of a job, Obama. bigwillq Sep 2013 #33

But they are not under dictator Gaddafi treestar Sep 2013 #34

Those of us who had doubts about intervention in Libya were smeared as Gaddafi-lovers. Good times. Starry Messenger Sep 2013 #35

YAY! AGAIN! quakerboy Sep 2013 #36

K&R liberal_at_heart Sep 2013 #37

kick. Starry Messenger Sep 2013 #38

Empires usually end in violent upheaval SoCalDem Sep 2013 #41

K&R woo me with science Sep 2013 #44