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sabrina 1

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43. Yes, Libya is Syria now. And anyone who believes 'we care about the victims' and who followed what
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 10:20 AM
Sep 2013

happened in Libya after the real mission was accomplished, should probably just stick to reading children's stories about the tooth fairy.

Once Gadaffi was dead, we left those 'victims' to the brutality of the 'proxy army' we call 'rebels'.

The truth is if we had not been in there, France et al, our allies from Qatar and Bahrain and the Saudis, the Libyan Govt would have remained in place because the Libyan people had things pretty good under that government.

So did the immigrants from other parts of Africa who received high pay from the government which they were able to send back to their families.

After we achieved Regime Change, which we lied about as usual, we were gone.

And the country turned into a version of Mad Max descending into chaos with terrorists slaughtering and torturing and robbing innocents. And when those victims begged for help, where were we?

Well, Hillary was boasting about 'the new way we fight wars' with no 'obvious' American boots on the ground, how we use 'proxy' armies now, pretending to be 'rebels'.

Libya went from being a country where it their Social programs, education and medical care, were excellent and where the government paid for homes for anyone who needed one, believing that owning a home is a Right. I doubt there were any homeless in Libya.

Now the invaders from the West are talking about divvying the country up. And guess who will have control of the oil?

Gadaffi was no saint, but what they have now is sheer hell.

Yes, add Libya to our list of 'successes' in bringing 'democracy' to the ME.

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K&R n/t Metatron Sep 2013 #1
Libya has become Somalia except with oil. hobbit709 Sep 2013 #2
It sure has. avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #5
Big oil got what they wanted. A cut in production to keep prices high. hobbit709 Sep 2013 #6
Your're right. The only mention I have heard of that was a quick avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #11
$1.1 billion went to MIC in 2011 for this little project jsr Sep 2013 #3
We should consider it a hefty investment in our future, avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #4
Mission Accomplished deutsey Sep 2013 #7
Look the imperialists don't give a flying fuck about local populations malaise Sep 2013 #8
Isn't the point of the article that they did not get oil? oberliner Sep 2013 #12
Keeping oil OFF the market keeps the price high. HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #16
So the imperialists (particularly the UK and France since Libya's oil went to Europe) wanted Libya pampango Sep 2013 #20
Depends what oil you hold or can grab. HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #23
Yes, Libya is Syria now. And anyone who believes 'we care about the victims' and who followed what sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #43
+1000. nt. polly7 Sep 2013 #45
boy, who coulda seen THAT coming! KG Sep 2013 #9
All sides seem happy Gaddafi is gone even if they agree on little else. pampango Sep 2013 #10
There are several excerpts in the article you cited indicating that the avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #15
The transition from dictator (or king or tsar) to a more open government is rarely smooth. pampango Sep 2013 #17
What are you suggesting we do to help? avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #18
I don't have a magic answer. I suppose UN peacekeepers would be a good idea pampango Sep 2013 #22
Don't be misled by international sources or by grudges from the disempowered. Iterate Sep 2013 #40
Moral: Let dictators be dictators? oberliner Sep 2013 #13
That is the key question. HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #19
"fledgling democracy"? Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #25
Well, democracy was the intent, supposedly, in Iraq.Afghanistan HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #28
That's because we promote Capitalism and all those young people rising up are a buncha hippies. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #32
Exactly. Thinking like an adult is no fun and makes for boring DU posts. nt SunSeeker Sep 2013 #26
They refer to Libya as a great glowing successful intervention NightWatcher Sep 2013 #14
So...much better to have kept Ghadaffi in power? brooklynite Sep 2013 #21
No question dictators are bad. HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #29
I just wish our decision-makers would give some thought avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #39
Is your assertion that if we were to assist them in rebuilding Ghadaffi would rise from the dead? Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #42
Greed does wonders. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #24
Mission accomplished. idwiyo Sep 2013 #27
Things will smooth out after a new dictator emerges from the chaos. The_Casual_Observer Sep 2013 #30
But, but - Iraq is all peaceful and stable now! ConcernedCanuk Sep 2013 #31
Heck of a job, Obama. bigwillq Sep 2013 #33
But they are not under dictator Gaddafi treestar Sep 2013 #34
Those of us who had doubts about intervention in Libya were smeared as Gaddafi-lovers. Good times. Starry Messenger Sep 2013 #35
YAY! AGAIN! quakerboy Sep 2013 #36
K&R liberal_at_heart Sep 2013 #37
kick. Starry Messenger Sep 2013 #38
Empires usually end in violent upheaval SoCalDem Sep 2013 #41
K&R woo me with science Sep 2013 #44
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