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Barack_America

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18. School teaches structure and this makes kids miserable?

Sat Sep 7, 2013, 10:24 AM

Sep 2013

And it is this childhood misery that creates miserable adults? The modern working world is just fine and dandy and satisfying, if it weren't for the school-induced misery people bring to it?

Wow.

Don't parents also teach structure and therefore make their kids miserable? Perhaps we should just be turning our children out into the wilderness if we want them to be truly unstructured/happy.

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School Is a Prison � And Damaging Our Kids [View all] xchrom Sep 2013 OP

It doesn't have to be a prison. The main problem with education especially in the last few decades liberal_at_heart Sep 2013 #1

Last few decades? That goes back to Dewey or farther Recursion Sep 2013 #5

So true. I don't see any changes on the horizon. At least, good ones. raouldukelives Sep 2013 #15

I am 100% in favor of public education. Democracyinkind Sep 2013 #2

Article doesn't say "industrial control", rather education systems evolved from "religious control" Trillo Sep 2013 #16

And yet it's modelled more on industry than on church schools. Igel Sep 2013 #21

No coincidence that people are often refered to as products of the school system The2ndWheel Sep 2013 #25

Thank you. You've very eloquently elaborated the point I wanted to make. Democracyinkind Sep 2013 #41

I read the article, I beg to differ. Democracyinkind Sep 2013 #40

Article says "compulsory schools", "public" does not appear. Trillo Sep 2013 #42

Let me amend then... Democracyinkind Sep 2013 #45

Since its inception, public education chervilant Sep 2013 #3

Schools are concrete boxes we lock children in Recursion Sep 2013 #4

So the socializing has no positive effect? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #26

A well educated population is hard to control. tecelote Sep 2013 #6

This is not true across the board. ananda Sep 2013 #7

To me "standardized" is a bad word in education. tecelote Sep 2013 #8

This is material the Republican Radicals around here would adore Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #9

I agree. n/t DebJ Sep 2013 #12

There have been numerous examples of alternative approaches, many of which Jackpine Radical Sep 2013 #10

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #46

We want to best Education for our Children Cryptoad Sep 2013 #11

We say we want the best education for our children. Igel Sep 2013 #22

Why not just programmed learning? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #27

I have no problem with Cryptoad Sep 2013 #31

Sudbury school has only 155 students, and they screen who goes to the school. DebJ Sep 2013 #13

Some tax burdens are worth it. Social Security, Medicaid, food stamps are all tax burdens. They are liberal_at_heart Sep 2013 #30

Please convince Governor Gashole Corbett of Pa of that. DebJ Sep 2013 #47

Ah, yes. Hear this sort of thing Skidmore Sep 2013 #14

You need to read the OP again. woo me with science Sep 2013 #17

The guy should learn to make a point a bit sooner... Ohio Joe Sep 2013 #19

School teaches structure and this makes kids miserable? Barack_America Sep 2013 #18

I agree. senseandsensibility Sep 2013 #29

We really need intellectuals to stop coming up with "big, new ideas" every 10 minutes. reformist2 Sep 2013 #20

Yes, and they do the same for the curriculum... Phentex Sep 2013 #24

It's the classic problem, if I may be a little un-PC, of too many chiefs and not enough Indians. reformist2 Sep 2013 #44

Most of these ideas are being thrown out at the same time. Igel Sep 2013 #34

There's a whole laundry list of things wrong with the school system we know now NuclearDem Sep 2013 #23

interesting I am not totally sold gopiscrap Sep 2013 #28

ha, I was just thinking that hfojvt Sep 2013 #35

yeah there's no way for me gopiscrap Sep 2013 #37

Encourage vocational schools Rosa Luxemburg Sep 2013 #32

That is too narrow. One problem I see with our public school system is we have abandoned liberal_at_heart Sep 2013 #33

what I'm saying Rosa Luxemburg Sep 2013 #43

I don't think I want to read this thread, even though it's an issue at the top of my priority list. LWolf Sep 2013 #36

Thank you for what you do LWolf. I got a call from my son's special education advocate and teacher liberal_at_heart Sep 2013 #38

I don't disagree with his general points, but... Nine Sep 2013 #39