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In reply to the discussion: How many people here on DU were once rethugs/conservatives? [View all]Hell Hath No Fury
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If you do, stick around and learn a few things.
If your post is still here after being alerted on (which I am sure it is), I will happily answer you.
"I wish that the people who didn't want to pay taxes didn't have to and the people who wanted to pay taxes had to. That way everybody would be happy. What % of the people would be on the " don't want to pay taxes side" ?"
If you don't want to pay taxes, then you should be prepared to forgo everything -- and I do mean everything -- that taxes pay for. That means no riding on the roads and highways systems for you. No emergency services, no national park visits. Turn off Elmo, don't even think about getting medical treatment using that drug discovered through research funded by the government. No hurricane or tornado warnings for you, no flood insurance, and certainly no help if you should be struck by a disaster -- be it natural or man made. I personally like all the things that go with paying taxes and I am very happy to pay modest taxes, and so should you. I don't want to live in a Third World country, which is what a country without sufficient tax support looks like.
"What did Rush Limbaugh lie about that made him a BS'er in your eyes? And what was twisted?"
There are entire websites devoted to debunking what Mr. Limbaugh says. Over the years he has been proven to be factually inaccurate on more occassions than I can count -- facts are neither liberal or conservative, simply true or untrue. I do not agree with his conservative opinions, but he is entitled to them -- on the other hand he is not entitled to his own facts. Go here for a lengthy and accurate examination of untruths Rush has pushed. http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1895
"Michael Savage has a book out called " liberalism is a mental disorder ". If you can't come up with sensible replies of what I asked, without lieing or wrongful facts, then I would think you are one of those mentally disordered people"
Michael Savage should look in the mirror. Seriously, what expertise does Michael Savage have to proclaim liberalism a "mental disorder"? Is he a licensed doctor? Medical researcher? Or is he simply a media pundit trying to make some bucks?
"I am willing to listen but this question I ask seems to stump liberals. You should have a reason for not liking something. I am a conservative and I have nothing against the poor, minorities, homos, and lower-middle class so I know that you don't know what you are talking about. See if you can answer my questions I proposed and see if you can reframe from name calling."
Well, you could perhaps make your case better by not calling gay and lesbian Americans "homos". Now who is calling names?
I find that, with folks like you, we liberals can provide you with many, many reasoned and reasonable answers to your questions, but you aren't really interested in the answers, especially if it does not fit in with your world view.
As for reasons for not liking something, I will share my very specific reasons on two things you've mentioned. Conservative viewpoints are one thing, I have no problems listening to and reflecting on solid conservative thought, but that is not what the likes of Rush and Savage do. I do not like Rush and Savage because they too often demonize our fellow Americans. They attempt to divide us along race, gender, religion, and sexual identity in ways that do not do our country good. They feed the worst in us, they feed our ugliest, nastiest fears. And they too often do it with lies and half-truths.