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85. lol, I remember

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Sat Sep 7, 2013, 03:27 PM

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And I was assured Obama's 2nd term was going to be a "Liberal Renaissance" [View all] whatchamacallit Sep 2013 OP

who told you that? The same person that told you Obama was not a pragmatic? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #1

The same people who claimed Obama was the most progressive president in decades whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #2

definition of pragmatic... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #28

There is nothing pragmatic about making deals with psychopaths AgingAmerican Sep 2013 #69

who are the psychopaths we are making deals with? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #86

The GOP AgingAmerican Sep 2013 #114

What recent President was more progressive? Jimmy Carter was decades ago. pnwmom Sep 2013 #46

Obama has been regressive AgingAmerican Sep 2013 #71

The ACA, with its large expansion of Medicaid and its tax credits for individuals and families, pnwmom Sep 2013 #76

It is mildly progressive AgingAmerican Sep 2013 #113

The only thing that will be delayed beyond January is a mandate for large companies pnwmom Sep 2013 #115

He is delaying the cap on out of pocket expenses AgingAmerican Sep 2013 #116

By Heritage Foundation standards, it's progressive indeed (since such was its origin) hatrack Sep 2013 #118

Regressive? Are you losing your mind? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #87

Please tell me what is progressive about his deals with Boehner? AgingAmerican Sep 2013 #112

Progressive is a relative term. He's far more progressive than Boehner or pnwmom Sep 2013 #119

He is far more 'progressive' than the Republicans? AgingAmerican Sep 2013 #121

Anyone who thinks this Syria war proposal is "pragmatic" is insane Bjorn Against Sep 2013 #27

who is declaring war on Syria? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #29

No one is denying that there is a civil war in Syria Bjorn Against Sep 2013 #40

No they have NOT...and have demonstrably said so... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #83

Yes they have, bombing Syria is bringing the US into the civil war Bjorn Against Sep 2013 #108

Dang. enlightenment Sep 2013 #82

THATS the most hyperbole you have seen on DU? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #84

Nice "declared war" dodge ... Bake Sep 2013 #97

So you are in favor of only doing things that you KNOW will work out? randome Sep 2013 #105

It's disingenous to say it will be ONLY a limited strike Bake Sep 2013 #122

Claims that his messed up dealings with the GOP are pragmatism AgingAmerican Sep 2013 #73

Post removed Post removed Sep 2013 #81

Seriously? This is the kind of disgusting shit that passes for discussion around here now? phleshdef Sep 2013 #103

Funny that your expectations didn't include hundreds of dead children and their families blm Sep 2013 #3

Unlike the "Ocolytes" whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #5

Gee, I was looking on military action as a reluctant necessity...but if it can get you worked up... brooklynite Sep 2013 #7

and if it is true that Assad carried out these chemical attacks.. VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #30

I'll support the strike as soon as we hold ourselves responsible for using.... Little Star Sep 2013 #72

then your thing about waiting for UN weapons inspectors means diddly squat. VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #88

You don't give a shit about how many we killed and maimed using White Phosphorus in Iraq.... Little Star Sep 2013 #96

Yes I do...but we haven't used phosporous under this administration have we? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #98

I certainly didnt expect obama would do that, but there it is nt msongs Sep 2013 #11

Yeah, we'll lob some rockets and kill thousands more durablend Sep 2013 #44

Kick leeroysphitz Sep 2013 #4

You mean Mommy didn't get you a pony? 99th_Monkey Sep 2013 #6

Ponies? The administration dug up the corpse of a ten year old dead horse fujiyama Sep 2013 #14

I know 99th_Monkey Sep 2013 #15

Yep! I could tell. fujiyama Sep 2013 #21

he campaigns much more liberally than he governs rurallib Sep 2013 #8

He campaigns using linguistic devices agent46 Sep 2013 #20

This has been blatantly apparent from the beginning to some of us. sibelian Sep 2013 #24

Were you tempted to sing-song it like Sarah? ... eom Kolesar Sep 2013 #25

Sarah who? nt sibelian Sep 2013 #61

You know denbot Sep 2013 #64

Ach! Her. sibelian Sep 2013 #66

Bingo. And some of us saw it from the beginning. QC Sep 2013 #48

I tried to point that out during the first Primary Marrah_G Sep 2013 #70

lol, I remember Vattel Sep 2013 #85

Like the 'hope and change' meme AgingAmerican Sep 2013 #74

he campaigns by making promises to every single demographic possible fully knowing he can't keep liberal_at_heart Sep 2013 #23

I would hardly call all these months of private sector jobs growth "lousy" VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #31

Yes. Working at an Amazon warehose is a job. mick063 Sep 2013 #41

its better than the alternative of job loss isn't it...its not perfect VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #95

oh, no kidding SammyWinstonJack Sep 2013 #111

Well, ProSense Sep 2013 #9

They sniff their nose at facts.. but thanks. Cha Sep 2013 #12

Win or lose, we should do the same thing -- organize! struggle4progress Sep 2013 #10

You are right! mazzarro Sep 2013 #80

assured? spanone Sep 2013 #13

No, now you have to wait till 2014, then he will! n-t Logical Sep 2013 #16

You were assured? Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 #17

It IS a Liberal Renaissance" elehhhhna Sep 2013 #18

More like a "Liberal Reconnaissance". nt adirondacker Sep 2013 #19

Simple mistake, just a typo, the actual assurance was a "NEOLiberal Renaissance" Dragonfli Sep 2013 #22

Yeah, I hate when that happens. woo me with science Sep 2013 #26

You expected Anarchy? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #33

How embarrassing for you woo me with science Sep 2013 #35

Hardly embarrassed...are you ? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #36

So tell me about "anarchy." woo me with science Sep 2013 #39

So glad you asked... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #42

And the relevance here? woo me with science Sep 2013 #45

So what do you want? Do we turn our backs when dictators use weapons that we have VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #47

Oh, my. woo me with science Sep 2013 #49

I never said I worried about it causing "anarchy"? where did you get that from VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #89

He should have used weapons we haven't signed treaties for. ForgoTheConsequence Sep 2013 #62

the US HAS agreed to it...AND will eliminate all stockpiles of chemical weapons by 2017 VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #90

Cluster bombs aren't chemical weapons. ForgoTheConsequence Sep 2013 #91

who planned on using clusterbombs? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #93

Saudi Arabia just bought 1,300 from us. ForgoTheConsequence Sep 2013 #101

You must have skipped civics in high school. ForgoTheConsequence Sep 2013 #58

That may have been the single stupidest post I've ever read. /nt Marr Sep 2013 #102

They were naive./He was the much better choice though/nt DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2013 #32

Pretty much. ForgoTheConsequence Sep 2013 #59

The whole system militates against wholesale change/nt DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2013 #63

Neo-liberal is what we got. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2013 #34

Apparently you were expecting Anarchy... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #37

Neo-conservatism with a smiley-face. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2013 #38

Uh no...read the definition... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #43

You don't know what traditional liberalism is do you? ForgoTheConsequence Sep 2013 #53

I think you are conflating classical liberalism with traditional liberalism DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2013 #68

Lets check the definition shall we? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #94

They are two sets of rhetoric and rationales to get to the exact same outcomes. TheKentuckian Sep 2013 #52

Wrong. ForgoTheConsequence Sep 2013 #55

That is what I said. I don't care what they are "supposed to be" because the outcomes are the same TheKentuckian Sep 2013 #65

+1 Neocons and neolibs... woo me with science Sep 2013 #54

Yeah, he's following the footsteps of the nonviolent MLK jsr Sep 2013 #50

It's coming any day now. ForgoTheConsequence Sep 2013 #51

from the right sponsor. jsr Sep 2013 #56

I was assured his second term would free him to do what he wanted to do. Autumn Sep 2013 #57

He's doing what's best for his retirement portfolio jsr Sep 2013 #60

Who says he isn't doing what he wanted to do? Marr Sep 2013 #104

That's my point. He's doing what he wants to do so the poster was right. Autumn Sep 2013 #106

lol right? d_b Sep 2013 #67

Who assured you? JEFF9K Sep 2013 #75

Until this Syrian lunacy, I blamed the failure of those ideals on Republicans. liberal N proud Sep 2013 #77

He did the best he could, considering the circumstances. darkangel218 Sep 2013 #78

Once we're passed next Nov's election cycle it'll be our turn. ileus Sep 2013 #79

I never expected that, but I didn't expect this either Taverner Sep 2013 #92

Worse, when a republican is in the Oval Office they can cite him for precedent. rug Sep 2013 #99

Remember when Obama was overheard saying he'd have "more flexibility" in his Marr Sep 2013 #100

What he meant was that he'll have the flexibility to completely ignore dflprincess Sep 2013 #117

Fool me once... Democracyinkind Sep 2013 #107

Ya See... The Bigoted Hatefully Insane Have Become The New Republican Party, The Old... WillyT Sep 2013 #109

You actually thought that wow. iandhr Sep 2013 #110

Most liberal president in decades. NYC Liberal Sep 2013 #120