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8. the US can't possibly hope to get the results they want through military strikes

Reply to Barack_America (Reply #5)

Sat Sep 7, 2013, 05:04 PM

Sep 2013

Most of their reluctance in fully committing to a diplomatic solution in Syria has to do with their reluctance to give any more credence to the Assad regime than they believe he deserves' perhaps propping him up, unnecessarily, in power with their diplomatic efforts.

Yet, the U.S. can't decide, either, whether to put their efforts into working with the armed Syrian opposition because of antipathy to elements within that group.

That said, it's no excuse to claim those efforts are exhausted and just move to war. Were not going to be able to just bomb Syria into compliance with whatever political ambitions the U.S. wants for the regime or for the country.

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Why are diplomatic options no more than one-liners for the Obama administration? [View all] bigtree Sep 2013 OP

You think diplomatic solutions were NOT pursued? blm Sep 2013 #1

they're in the back seat now, blm bigtree Sep 2013 #4

Because Assad became increasingly paranoid, big - - his mental state blm Sep 2013 #17

Huh? treestar Sep 2013 #2

does military force ever 'break down'? bigtree Sep 2013 #6

Probably because theyve purued iamthebandfanman Sep 2013 #3

Two years ago, Obama was saying, "Assad must go." That's not diplomacy. scarletwoman Sep 2013 #19

Describe one that Russia and China can't block. Barack_America Sep 2013 #5

the US can't possibly hope to get the results they want through military strikes bigtree Sep 2013 #8

If that's what you want, read or watch the Samantha Powers speech. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #7

explain to me how they are 'exhausted' bigtree Sep 2013 #9

Go watch the speech. n/t Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #10

I don't need the speech again to tell me that diplomatic efforts are 'exhausted' bigtree Sep 2013 #11

Welp. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #12

no, I read that bigtree Sep 2013 #13

Then you're handwaving what they are saying. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #14

well, yeah, in a way bigtree Sep 2013 #16

How can diplomacy work when one side's getting away with gassing the other side? Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #20

that's just gobblygook, considering the casualties inflicted by the armed resistance bigtree Sep 2013 #22

It's tragic Obama hasn't kept everyone up on this leftstreet Sep 2013 #15

He's always gotten flack for nuance, gray areas, and carefully worded long sentences bhikkhu Sep 2013 #18

Because diplomacy has been tried and Russia has blocked every attempt. bluestate10 Sep 2013 #21

perhaps it's because of our own preconditions for these negotiations they've offered bigtree Sep 2013 #23

U.S. demands are in essence Harmony Blue Sep 2013 #24