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marew

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68. People are not in denial.

Sat Sep 7, 2013, 05:25 PM

Sep 2013

They simply want honest information.

Your fervent obsession with watching the same gore and human suffering over and over is not doing your cause any good. Borders a bit on the bizarre, quite frankly.

I would be much more impressed if you called for immediate humanitarian intervention but no- you just advocate watching suffering over and over and over... Do you have the same concern for those riddles with bullets or blown up by bombs?

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Hey, MSNBC. Yeah, I'm talking to you. Thanks for the snuff videos you just showed. [View all] Cleita Sep 2013 OP

I don't watch that channel anymore. liberal_at_heart Sep 2013 #1

There's nothing much else on Saturday. I switch between them and Al Jazeera now. Cleita Sep 2013 #3

However, at night, there's always that wonderful prison stuff, "Lockup." Judi Lynn Sep 2013 #31

I don't have cable tavalon Sep 2013 #61

Is Al Jazerra still streaming? I'd heard they went dark once cable and sat picked them up. Flatulo Sep 2013 #97

It's been a while tavalon Sep 2013 #150

In an age of manufactured news cycles... Chan790 Sep 2013 #70

I'm not into sports and that's mainly what's on or commercials to try to make you buy stuff. Cleita Sep 2013 #72

Caution on al Jazeera - it was established by the Emir of Qatar. leveymg Sep 2013 #102

I've been watching it a long time, even before they took over Current TV. Cleita Sep 2013 #104

MSNBC has become televised BOG mick063 Sep 2013 #2

and they were BOGGERS for Bush's Iraq war too? Whisp Sep 2013 #14

The BOG wants war. mick063 Sep 2013 #25

Oh BS treestar Sep 2013 #27

If nobody wants war . . . another_liberal Sep 2013 #107

If you're around enough you will see which posters treestar Sep 2013 #161

Blaming "the banksters?" I say! another_liberal Sep 2013 #171

bullshit. The BOG wants to hear the President out Whisp Sep 2013 #29

Completely agree. n/t FSogol Sep 2013 #37

You know as well as I do. mick063 Sep 2013 #77

well, then it's all settled, you know everything about everyone. Whisp Sep 2013 #81

So attacking Syria is Okay if Europe does it, Progressive dog Sep 2013 #121

The BOG is a very bad place, not sure I'd call it evil, but it is cui bono Sep 2013 #112

the Barack Obama Group on DU wants war? Care to back up that blatant bullshit? KittyWampus Sep 2013 #46

I apologize for my friends, they just did not know you guys were anti bombing Syria Dragonfli Sep 2013 #76

Problem is they don't know what their views are until Obama tells them. cui bono Sep 2013 #113

What does BOG stand for? Raksha Sep 2013 #114

Barack Obama Group (every day I find I am behind on some acronym or other) link below Dragonfli Sep 2013 #117

Well it has many meanings... officially it is Barack Obama Group. cui bono Sep 2013 #118

Thanks for the explanation. I didn't know BOG stood for Barack Obama Group, Raksha Sep 2013 #136

And in Britain OwnedByCats Sep 2013 #159

Well that applies then since the ideas that are floating around in there are... cui bono Sep 2013 #163

Yep lol OwnedByCats Sep 2013 #184

The way the BOG treats fellow DUers is "shitty" to use your words. cui bono Sep 2013 #109

if you come into the BOG all ready for bear Whisp Sep 2013 #115

See? Just like I said. Your last two sentences sum it all up. cui bono Sep 2013 #116

o yeh, I forgot the rule about 'being nice' Whisp Sep 2013 #119

Everyone else here does not let their denial of facts make them ban others from groups. cui bono Sep 2013 #126

you don't like the group system? Take it up with Skinner Whisp Sep 2013 #130

Nice try at deflecting the point. Doesn't change the facts, which you didn't refute. cui bono Sep 2013 #133

The purpose of the groups was to create a safe place for people fitting the charter of the group karynnj Sep 2013 #172

I answered your other post... see that. cui bono Sep 2013 #173

Try this experiment karynnj Sep 2013 #175

You know what? It's on both sides. DU simply does not have a good moderating system. cui bono Sep 2013 #177

I agree that the nastiness is inexcusable and counter productive karynnj Sep 2013 #180

"Spew the nasty shit about obama" Scootaloo Sep 2013 #181

don't you worry your little head about BOG business. Whisp Sep 2013 #182

Well, you don't recall correctly Scootaloo Sep 2013 #183

Why are you threatened because there is a group that by definition respects and generally supports karynnj Sep 2013 #169

I'm not threatened. Doesn't change the fact that it is a bigoted and discriminatory group cui bono Sep 2013 #170

I think that all the groups threads CAN go to the greatest page, karynnj Sep 2013 #174

I agree, there is far too much anger. I've alerted on OPs that agree with my position cui bono Sep 2013 #176

I agree with much of that, but I do think the groups have value karynnj Sep 2013 #178

That's great. I'm not against groups in general. Just bigoted, discrimanatory ones that are afraid cui bono Sep 2013 #179

Good description n/t LuvNewcastle Sep 2013 #16

At least two hosts have come against this adventure nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #105

Will they show the people the US Bombs kill? NoOneMan Sep 2013 #4

Me neither. n/t Cleita Sep 2013 #5

exactly. liberal_at_heart Sep 2013 #6

They wouldn't dare show the victims of the white phosphorus dropped in Iraq. Judi Lynn Sep 2013 #19

I thought the heroic Edward Snowden leaked that? treestar Sep 2013 #34

So you're defending Snowden? progressoid Sep 2013 #73

The person is objecting to seeing photos, or others seeing photos treestar Sep 2013 #160

Not that I am aware of NoOneMan Sep 2013 #100

How many deaths from chemical weapons are you willing to accept? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #49

If that's how it works, then you were willing to accept over 100,000 Syrian deaths Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #98

+1 cui bono Sep 2013 #127

Take it up with the UN and international community treestar Sep 2013 #162

About the same as deaths from US bombs NoOneMan Sep 2013 #103

Well said! The horrors of what we do are always sanitized. As someone in a post RKP5637 Sep 2013 #128

Or white phosphorous (used in Iraq to burn flesh off people) NoOneMan Sep 2013 #129

In a nation we destroyed for no reason and had no business being in the first place, yet we RKP5637 Sep 2013 #132

That's one*leak* that won't be investigated n/t Catherina Sep 2013 #7

No kidding. n/t Cleita Sep 2013 #20

I quit watching years ago LittleBlue Sep 2013 #8

They were pipi_k Sep 2013 #9

You are right, that is despicable. Whisp Sep 2013 #10

They put the first ones on the show before Karen Finney with no disclaimer. I forget Cleita Sep 2013 #13

You know they posted that for a reason... dixiegrrrrl Sep 2013 #11

Don't forget the shooting of Germans in a radio station on the Polish border to Cleita Sep 2013 #17

I did not know that. dixiegrrrrl Sep 2013 #33

You're asking the media to liberalhistorian Sep 2013 #12

Yeah, it's funny but it will lead to tragedy. Cleita Sep 2013 #22

Thanks for the warning. It's awful being "played" by the media. Judi Lynn Sep 2013 #15

Exactly. This is just such crap. n/t Cleita Sep 2013 #18

I wonder if Finney from MSNBC covered the Honduras coup Whisp Sep 2013 #23

Yep, you can bet on that, it's a given. n/t Judi Lynn Sep 2013 #36

exactly right G_j Sep 2013 #47

Completely agree! marew Sep 2013 #21

Humanitarian aid? Medicine? Food? Cleita Sep 2013 #24

There I go again! marew Sep 2013 #32

That would be the BEST thing to do Politicalboi Sep 2013 #44

You cannot be on the wrong side of the UN when you are a permanent member of the Security Council TheKentuckian Sep 2013 #69

There is a lot of hype on many news medias, does not occur only on MSNBC and CNN Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #26

Actually, most people don't do searches and do critical reading. Most DUers do, Cleita Sep 2013 #35

One should not that showing the equivalent US jimlup Sep 2013 #28

Don't look. treestar Sep 2013 #30

Remember... Regarding dead American soldiers... marew Sep 2013 #40

I remember that fetid old bag saying that. I doubt if there is much of a mind up there Cleita Sep 2013 #74

Perfect word choice for that person, "fetid old bag!" Couldn't be better. n/t Judi Lynn Sep 2013 #82

Then airing films of the effects of felix_numinous Sep 2013 #38

I am all for that. It's what fair and balanced really is. If we are going to show one camp's Cleita Sep 2013 #39

EXACTLY!!! nt marew Sep 2013 #42

Cleita, I've been also listening to the discussion on MSNBC. Skidmore Sep 2013 #41

I don't think they are discussing the real issues here, just the problems Obama is Cleita Sep 2013 #43

If they could find enough remains to photograph ... GeorgeGist Sep 2013 #45

you SHOULD see it... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #48

I have seen it over and over. I don't think it's necessary for what they are trying Cleita Sep 2013 #50

I think it IS necessary... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #51

You're not winning friends here trying to smear others. Judi Lynn Sep 2013 #53

I am not here to win friends...I am here to support Democrats...thus the name "Democratic Undergroun VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #56

Supporting Democrats right or wrong. Right? totodeinhere Sep 2013 #96

I support democrats because I hate republicans.. VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #137

Hating Republicans is no good reason for wanting to attack Syria. In fact the opposite just might totodeinhere Sep 2013 #143

can you accept 2 different concepts at the same time? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #144

LOLOL Skittles Sep 2013 #135

that's exactly right.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #145

Not my mind. How about others, like children, who don't need to see those images on a channel that Cleita Sep 2013 #54

I grew up watching Viet Nam.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #58

I grew up in a mining camp and when there was an accidental explosion, I saw them Cleita Sep 2013 #60

I do.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #62

Which brings up the question, maybe we should not have treestar Sep 2013 #164

why? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #165

The OP doesn't want us seeing the photos from Syria treestar Sep 2013 #166

hmmm by that analogy...why do they give us news that happens in any other country? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #167

My analogy may not be working out treestar Sep 2013 #168

That is NOT what Cleita was saying! marew Sep 2013 #63

we SHOULD see this... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #64

People are not in denial. marew Sep 2013 #68

Not one person pecwae Sep 2013 #139

the whole "death = death" crowd VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #65

Tell that to someone... marew Sep 2013 #71

Oh, so naive... Democracyinkind Sep 2013 #83

White Phospherous is... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #155

Maybe we should also see footage of the the US military's use of white phosphorus munitions totodeinhere Sep 2013 #93

I bet it give you a WARGASM! RetroLounge Sep 2013 #154

MIC war atrocities would take a long time felix_numinous Sep 2013 #52

It could take up more time than people have to watch it! n/t Judi Lynn Sep 2013 #55

Actually, that could replace the voyeuristic prison videos so popular these days. n/t Cleita Sep 2013 #57

These videos show the facts. wisteria Sep 2013 #59

And the Dead "Little Ones" sleep...vicitims of Violence...New Ones Every Day! KoKo Sep 2013 #90

WikiLeaks: Iraqi children in U.S. raid shot in head, U.N. says OnyxCollie Sep 2013 #149

This message was self-deleted by its author Jesus Malverde Sep 2013 #66

I think it's good they show it I think the American people need to see this not only when they do it Arcanetrance Sep 2013 #67

You are dead wrong. bluestate10 Sep 2013 #85

The source of the films has been made clear BainsBane Sep 2013 #75

Wow! You do not believe it is a bit of a leap... marew Sep 2013 #84

She is objecting to it being shown on television BainsBane Sep 2013 #108

facts? MFM008 Sep 2013 #78

This message was self-deleted by its author malletgirl02 Sep 2013 #79

Why shouldnt people know? iamthebandfanman Sep 2013 #80

So you equate not wanting to watch suffering with 'ignoring'? Wow! marew Sep 2013 #91

Still waiting on pictures from all those dead Iraqis. Democracyinkind Sep 2013 #86

I'm waiting for all the pictures of those live Iraqi and Afghani babies that are being Cleita Sep 2013 #88

Exactly. nt Democracyinkind Sep 2013 #89

Me too! nt marew Sep 2013 #92

Many pictures have been shown by the media, and guilty Americans have gone to jail. bluestate10 Sep 2013 #94

To claim that the US media has equally considered Iraqi deaths is Democracyinkind Sep 2013 #99

At best . . . another_liberal Sep 2013 #120

Absolutely! nt Democracyinkind Sep 2013 #138

The clips of the videos shown on CNN were the ones that CONGRESS has been given... Tx4obama Sep 2013 #87

Wrong answer- anyone who pretends to have a political opinion about Syria JCMach1 Sep 2013 #95

Very interesting research on Iraq/Kuwait war buildup delrem Sep 2013 #101

I remember the non-existent babies being tossed from non-existent incubators. Cleita Sep 2013 #106

The pitiful dead children videos have lost their effectiveness for swaying public opinion. another_liberal Sep 2013 #110

Thank you. You put it more eloquently than I did. n/t Cleita Sep 2013 #111

How is that "showing these videos to gin up the war drumming being done is really not cool" 4bucksagallon Sep 2013 #122

When you figure out how to write in complete and cognitive sentences expect a response, Cleita Sep 2013 #124

Obama doesn't have to mess with Syria. mimi85 Sep 2013 #123

Pressure from his Wall Street buddies. War supplying company stocks are slowing down. Cleita Sep 2013 #125

The will of the people is peace polynomial Sep 2013 #131

You are so right about the aid the refugees need. The countries that have opened their Cleita Sep 2013 #134

yes cash__whatiwant Sep 2013 #140

why not ? they made a big deal out of that Rebel eating the soldier Heart JI7 Sep 2013 #141

Sick, just sick. DiverDave Sep 2013 #142

You can't handle the truth, or that Obama is trying to stop this atrocity from happeneing again. baldguy Sep 2013 #146

I'm all for intervention and stopping the atrocities but not Cleita Sep 2013 #147

Right. Let's do nothing more than sent Assad a strongly worded letter. That'll stop him. baldguy Sep 2013 #148

Really? Is that all you've got, a strongly worded letter? Cleita Sep 2013 #151

I actually wish our brave media would show nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #152

Also MSNBC continues to say that the authenticity of the videos Cleita Sep 2013 #153

I have zero issues with them showing them nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #158

So, you would be against the horrors of Vietnam that the media started showing that chelsea0011 Sep 2013 #156

Those films were authenticated and shown in context. These aren't. Cleita Sep 2013 #157