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In reply to the discussion: Robert Reich Believes It Is SoS John Kerry Sounding The War Drums of Syria. [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)5. WTF?
Im told Chuck Hegel has strong reservations, as do the Pentagons top generals. But Kerry has no reservations at all, and has convinced the President to stake much of his second-term presidency on it. Why? Its possible, of course, that Kerry honestly believes that a punitive military strike against Assad is necessary, and that the benefits of such a strike would outweigh the potential costs. But I suspect something else is going on. Kerry is an intelligent man, but he has a fatal flaw. He craves the limelight. He wants to be in the center of the action and attention. Over the years I heard again and again from his Senate colleagues that Kerry grandstanded and wanted all the credit, said things that would get him on the evening news, pushed too fast and too far in order to make his mark.
What the hell is with this cheap psychoanalysis? Kerry's career has been marked by not getting credit for much of the work he has done in the Senate. He has helped to write and push legislation that he took no credit for, but he has also done a lot.
It's bullshit for Reich to use this idiotic character attack to question Kerry's motive. Reich worked for a President who launched several military actions.
Bill Clinton launched several strikes on Iraq, including a strike to take out Saddam's chemical infrastucture.
Transcript: President Clinton explains Iraq strike
CLINTON: Good evening.
Earlier today, I ordered America's armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.
Their purpose is to protect the national interest of the United States, and indeed the interests of people throughout the Middle East and around the world.
Saddam Hussein must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons.
I want to explain why I have decided, with the unanimous recommendation of my national security team, to use force in Iraq; why we have acted now; and what we aim to accomplish.
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http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1998/12/16/transcripts/clinton.html
CLINTON: Good evening.
Earlier today, I ordered America's armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.
Their purpose is to protect the national interest of the United States, and indeed the interests of people throughout the Middle East and around the world.
Saddam Hussein must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons.
I want to explain why I have decided, with the unanimous recommendation of my national security team, to use force in Iraq; why we have acted now; and what we aim to accomplish.
- more -
http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1998/12/16/transcripts/clinton.html
BILL CLINTON
Iraq (1993): Launched cruise missiles into Baghdad, hitting Iraqi intelligence headquarters, in retaliation for assassination plot against President George H.W. Bush.
Somalia (1993): Increased troop deployment for security and stability mission with 35 other nations under U.N. Security Council resolution.
Haiti (1994) Deployed troops for peacekeeping and nation-building mission as authorized by U.N. Security Council resolution.
Bosnia (1994-96): Launched airstrikes with NATO allies over 18 months, culminating with bombings, artillery attacks and cruise missile strikes against Bosnia Serbs, by request of U.N. Secretary General Boutrous Boutrous-Ghali and to enforce no-fly zones as authorized by at least three U.N. Security Council resolutions. Deployed troops in year-long NATO peacekeeping mission.
Iraq (1996): Launched cruise missiles at targets in southern Iraq in retaliation against attacks on U.S. jets enforcing no-fly zones to protect Iraqi minorities as authorized by U.N. Security Council resolution.
Sudan, Afghanistan (1998): Launched cruise missiles at terrorist training camps in Sudan and Afghanistan in retaliation against U.S. Embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania that killed more than 220 people, including 12 Americans.
Iraq (1998): Launched cruise missiles and airstrikes on a number of Baghdad targets to punish Saddam Hussein for not complying with U.N. chemical weapons inspections as required under U.N. Security Council resolutions.
Kosovo: (1999): Launched airstrikes and cruise missiles over more than three months at Yugoslavian military targets, power stations, bridges and other facilities as part of NATO mission.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/crash-course-a-guide-to-30-years-of-us-military-strikes-against-other-nations.php
Iraq (1993): Launched cruise missiles into Baghdad, hitting Iraqi intelligence headquarters, in retaliation for assassination plot against President George H.W. Bush.
Somalia (1993): Increased troop deployment for security and stability mission with 35 other nations under U.N. Security Council resolution.
Haiti (1994) Deployed troops for peacekeeping and nation-building mission as authorized by U.N. Security Council resolution.
Bosnia (1994-96): Launched airstrikes with NATO allies over 18 months, culminating with bombings, artillery attacks and cruise missile strikes against Bosnia Serbs, by request of U.N. Secretary General Boutrous Boutrous-Ghali and to enforce no-fly zones as authorized by at least three U.N. Security Council resolutions. Deployed troops in year-long NATO peacekeeping mission.
Iraq (1996): Launched cruise missiles at targets in southern Iraq in retaliation against attacks on U.S. jets enforcing no-fly zones to protect Iraqi minorities as authorized by U.N. Security Council resolution.
Sudan, Afghanistan (1998): Launched cruise missiles at terrorist training camps in Sudan and Afghanistan in retaliation against U.S. Embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania that killed more than 220 people, including 12 Americans.
Iraq (1998): Launched cruise missiles and airstrikes on a number of Baghdad targets to punish Saddam Hussein for not complying with U.N. chemical weapons inspections as required under U.N. Security Council resolutions.
Kosovo: (1999): Launched airstrikes and cruise missiles over more than three months at Yugoslavian military targets, power stations, bridges and other facilities as part of NATO mission.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/crash-course-a-guide-to-30-years-of-us-military-strikes-against-other-nations.php
Iraq Liberation Act of 1998
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1998/roll482.xml
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-105hr4655enr/pdf/BILLS-105hr4655enr.pdf
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Robert Reich Believes It Is SoS John Kerry Sounding The War Drums of Syria. [View all]
rsmith6621
Sep 2013
OP
Me too. Perhaps. At the moment, I'm wondering if we really did, though. nt
silvershadow
Sep 2013
#23
One example that I can easily name is that Kerry wrote the bill that provided f
karynnj
Sep 2013
#56
The fact that Reich worked for Clinton and the strikes launched during his Presidency.
ProSense
Sep 2013
#14
Then you must agree that links about Clinton's foreign military adventures are utterly irrelevant.
rug
Sep 2013
#58
Not to mention - from other accounts Obama's senior National security staff was supposedly
karynnj
Sep 2013
#60
He got BOTOX...and has a lovely, rich wife...and he likes his lifestyle and Power,
KoKo
Sep 2013
#27
someone has gotten to Obama to talk him into this crackpots scheme.. I don't know who. But maybe it
Douglas Carpenter
Sep 2013
#8
Wow, Samantha Power called Hillary Clinton a 'monster' in 2008 so framing her as
Bluenorthwest
Sep 2013
#103
- partly true, but Bill Clinton disliked him enough to endorse someone else in the 2002 MA Governor
karynnj
Sep 2013
#72
That is ridiculous - Kerry has at all times shown Obama the respect that he deserves
karynnj
Sep 2013
#78
It doesn't matter who it is or what their progressive or Democratic credentials are.
totodeinhere
Sep 2013
#42
Well - a gossip monger might post that the President will swap his VP out for the SOS
karynnj
Sep 2013
#79
A lot of people were speculating about that at the time. There was a lot of speculation
totodeinhere
Sep 2013
#104
Could you please state what these dollar amounts are supposed to signify?
TroglodyteScholar
Sep 2013
#88