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bigtree

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16. well, yeah, in a way
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 08:09 PM
Sep 2013

. . . because, I don't see how it can be seen as a sincere effort.

Behind the abandonment of diplomacy is an open ambition to spark a change in regimes as part of their military intervention effort. That's even further aggravated by their open suspicion of the affiliations of the Syrian resistance that's expected to step into the vacuum they hope to create with their military strikes.

Understanding that you need to believe that bombing Syrian targets is a natural, reasonable, and somewhat effective progression of actions in order to accept that diplomacy has ceased to be an option, or has been 'exhausted'.

To me, military action is just a choice - not an inevitable option that should naturally follow exasperation with diplomacy. It's an 'either, or' more than it's a one-two step to war.

What Powers offered was an excuse or a justification for their abandonment of diplomacy - not a credible or complete explanation of her statement that diplomatic means have been exhausted. Not in light of her reasoning that military action should necessarily follow.

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You think diplomatic solutions were NOT pursued? blm Sep 2013 #1
they're in the back seat now, blm bigtree Sep 2013 #4
Because Assad became increasingly paranoid, big - - his mental state blm Sep 2013 #17
Huh? treestar Sep 2013 #2
does military force ever 'break down'? bigtree Sep 2013 #6
Probably because theyve purued iamthebandfanman Sep 2013 #3
Two years ago, Obama was saying, "Assad must go." That's not diplomacy. scarletwoman Sep 2013 #19
Describe one that Russia and China can't block. Barack_America Sep 2013 #5
the US can't possibly hope to get the results they want through military strikes bigtree Sep 2013 #8
If that's what you want, read or watch the Samantha Powers speech. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #7
explain to me how they are 'exhausted' bigtree Sep 2013 #9
Go watch the speech. n/t Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #10
I don't need the speech again to tell me that diplomatic efforts are 'exhausted' bigtree Sep 2013 #11
Welp. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #12
no, I read that bigtree Sep 2013 #13
Then you're handwaving what they are saying. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #14
well, yeah, in a way bigtree Sep 2013 #16
How can diplomacy work when one side's getting away with gassing the other side? Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #20
that's just gobblygook, considering the casualties inflicted by the armed resistance bigtree Sep 2013 #22
It's tragic Obama hasn't kept everyone up on this leftstreet Sep 2013 #15
He's always gotten flack for nuance, gray areas, and carefully worded long sentences bhikkhu Sep 2013 #18
Because diplomacy has been tried and Russia has blocked every attempt. bluestate10 Sep 2013 #21
perhaps it's because of our own preconditions for these negotiations they've offered bigtree Sep 2013 #23
U.S. demands are in essence Harmony Blue Sep 2013 #24
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