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In reply to the discussion: Kerry has the unmitigated gall to tell Euopeans that this is their "Munich Moment" [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)3. Kerry and French Foreign Minister Appeal Together for Strike Against Syria
Kerry and French Foreign Minister Appeal Together for Strike Against Syria
By MICHAEL R. GORDON
PARIS The two most vocal advocates of an international response to a chemical weapons attack in Syria teamed up on Saturday when Secretary of State John Kerry and his French counterpart made an unusual joint appeal for military action.
France and the United States stand together, said Laurent Fabius, the French foreign minister, who argued that a punishing military strike was needed to redraw the red line against the use of chemical weapons.
Mr. Kerry reached back to President John F. Kennedys meetings with President Charles de Gaulle and sought to touch a chord with wary Europeans over the need to stand up to the slaughter of civilians by delivering much of his presentation in fluent French.
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French officials, for their part, have made clear that they do not want to go it alone against Syria and need a partner if action is taken...to obtain broader backing for a military operation from European nations, Frances president, François Hollande, said Friday that his government would not act militarily before United Nations inspectors presented their findings about the Aug. 21 chemical weapons attack near Damascus...The move was intended to secure a measure of support from Germany and other European nations, which are concerned that action will be taken without the approval of the United Nations Security Council because of the threat of a Russian veto...After Mr. Hollandes remarks, the European Union issued a statement on Saturday at a meeting in Lithuania calling for a clear and strong response, but only after a preliminary report by United Nations inspectors is submitted as soon as possible.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/08/world/europe/european-union-wants-un-report-before-any-military-action-in-syria.html
By MICHAEL R. GORDON
PARIS The two most vocal advocates of an international response to a chemical weapons attack in Syria teamed up on Saturday when Secretary of State John Kerry and his French counterpart made an unusual joint appeal for military action.
France and the United States stand together, said Laurent Fabius, the French foreign minister, who argued that a punishing military strike was needed to redraw the red line against the use of chemical weapons.
Mr. Kerry reached back to President John F. Kennedys meetings with President Charles de Gaulle and sought to touch a chord with wary Europeans over the need to stand up to the slaughter of civilians by delivering much of his presentation in fluent French.
<...>
French officials, for their part, have made clear that they do not want to go it alone against Syria and need a partner if action is taken...to obtain broader backing for a military operation from European nations, Frances president, François Hollande, said Friday that his government would not act militarily before United Nations inspectors presented their findings about the Aug. 21 chemical weapons attack near Damascus...The move was intended to secure a measure of support from Germany and other European nations, which are concerned that action will be taken without the approval of the United Nations Security Council because of the threat of a Russian veto...After Mr. Hollandes remarks, the European Union issued a statement on Saturday at a meeting in Lithuania calling for a clear and strong response, but only after a preliminary report by United Nations inspectors is submitted as soon as possible.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/08/world/europe/european-union-wants-un-report-before-any-military-action-in-syria.html
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Kerry has the unmitigated gall to tell Euopeans that this is their "Munich Moment" [View all]
cali
Sep 2013
OP
The "Unless we fuck it up" clause has been invoked several times in our history. n/t
DisgustipatedinCA
Sep 2013
#82
He supports a strike, always did. He decided to wait until the UN findings come out.
ProSense
Sep 2013
#28
That's not what your link said. Are you saying he'll attack regardless of the UN findings?
rug
Sep 2013
#29
Be nice. The minivan lady took him to a dark (and repetitive?) place.
DisgustipatedinCA
Sep 2013
#84
There are countries backing a strike, some will only back it with the UN on board. n/t
ProSense
Sep 2013
#24
Many DU'ers are going to end up looking really ignorant when Assad goes further.
KittyWampus
Sep 2013
#18
Don't expect some people to admit that they were wrong if it turns out they are.
bluestate10
Sep 2013
#54
Who is Owed An Apology?? I'd Say the DLC-Candidate Supporting Primary Voters
HumansAndResources
Sep 2013
#85
"Assad goes further..." or the Transnational-Saudi-Wahhabi Rebels Go Further?
HumansAndResources
Sep 2013
#83
You Prefer the Wahhabis, Or is there some "peace and freedom" faction I have yet to hear about?
HumansAndResources
Sep 2013
#87
The options with Assad have narrowed to the current set of options. As long as
bluestate10
Sep 2013
#65
Which Monsters in Yugoslavia ?? That War Was Based On More Lies and Half-Truths
HumansAndResources
Sep 2013
#86
Kerry was exercising his "Munich moment" when he voted for war against a dictator.
bluestate10
Sep 2013
#68
Revealed: UK Government let British company export nerve gas chemicals to Syria
avebury
Sep 2013
#77
you just go back to the post and hit the big red-yellow "undo" button where the "rec" used to be
MisterP
Sep 2013
#81
I don't think Chamberlain at Munich is quite the analogy he is looking for either.
bemildred
Sep 2013
#91