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Showing Original Post only (View all)Let's End the Pledge of Allegiance in Schools [View all]
http://www.alternet.org/education/lets-end-pledge-allegiance-schools
Just in time for back to school: In Massachusetts this week, a venerable classroom tradition is facing a high court challenge. The states Supreme Judicial Court is currently weighing an atheist couples argument that the words under God be struck from the Pledge of Allegiance, because they claim the phrase is exclusionary to atheist children like theirs. In other news wait, why are school children still saying the Pledge of Allegiance anyway?
The anonymous couples attorney David Niose contends that This case presents an unpopular and wrongly vilified minority facing discrimination by a state promoting and propagating the idea that good patriots are God believers. Though its mandatory for teachers to lead students in the Pledge each day, its voluntary for students to say it. Last year, Middlesex Superior Court Judge Jane Haggerty ruled that the under God clause does not convert the exercise into a prayer and does not violate childrens rights. OK, but who wants to be the one 7-year-old to sit out something the authority figure just invited the whole class to do?
The idea that God is an intrinsic and necessary part of the Pledge is silly. The original Pledge of Allegiance didnt even include the phrase under God. It was added in the 1950s. But why is the Pledge itself still mandatory in so many places? Leading the Pledge is also mandatory in New York, but the rule is loosely enforced. Neither of my childrens pinko, godless public schools do it my 9-year-old asked me this morning what the Pledge even is. (Their Girl Scout troop also unceremoniously struck the phrase to serve God from its Promise and the earth did not explode.) And my elder daughter, who recalls it vaguely from her old kindergarten, explained, You say youll be loyal to the flag. Not your country. The flag. I dont get it. Maybe its blasé attitudes like theirs that pushed a Brooklyn parent two years ago to demand her local public school start enforcing it.
Growing up in Catholic schools, my weekday classroom routine consisted of facing the front of the room, hand over heart, and reciting the Pledge. I then turned around to the crucifix on the back wall and recited the Our Father. I was a patriotic Christian kid then and Im a patriotic Christian adult now and I have never stopped finding the practice strange and pointless and time-wasting.
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I'm all for it. School is about education, not ingraining loyalty to the state
NuclearDem
Sep 2013
#1
I swore allegiance to the Constitution when I was inducted into the military in the early '70s . . .
Journeyman
Sep 2013
#2
If you really want to piss off a RWer, tell them it was written by a Socialist.
hobbit709
Sep 2013
#9
I don't believe in some stupid fundamentalist/literalist/politicized notion of "God".
delrem
Sep 2013
#6
then change it to Goddess and see how many evangelical Christian heads explode.
liberal_at_heart
Sep 2013
#43
Give me a break. I'm not buying it. Fundamentalist Christians want to be able to worship in
liberal_at_heart
Sep 2013
#49
The fact that you seem to be calling folks who object to the word "God" in the pledge
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2013
#44
yeah it sounded like a veiled dig to me. If you don't believe in a spirit or soul you can't have
liberal_at_heart
Sep 2013
#53
It is not your so called connotations that is offensive. It is the fact that the people who believe
liberal_at_heart
Sep 2013
#61
What is it that is hurt by "connotations". After all, such "connotations" aren't material.
delrem
Sep 2013
#55
"People must have a soul because if people didn't have a soul they wouldn't be people", QED
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2013
#57
I'd prefer more time devoted to teaching critical thinking, and less to pledging blindly to ANYTHING
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2013
#10
I've come to really respect Jehovah's witnesses. Their belief in not accepting blood
liberal_at_heart
Sep 2013
#47
Remember that the Pledge wasn't originally made with your hand over your heart...
backscatter712
Sep 2013
#28
"Patriotism is the most foolish of passions and the passion of fools." Schopenhauer
Tierra_y_Libertad
Sep 2013
#30
When my daughter became atheist she stopped saying Under God. The more she
liberal_at_heart
Sep 2013
#65
It should be changed to "I pledge allegiance to the United States of America".
FarCenter
Sep 2013
#73