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Turborama

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12. I'd think so, too

Reply to bemildred (Reply #10)

Sun Sep 8, 2013, 08:15 AM

Sep 2013

That's why I got confused by it being in here... (maybe I read the context wrong?)

"The very fact they are so vehement to get you to do something, this person who does not know you from Adam, and willing to jerk your chain emotionally to get at you, tells you to ignore what they say, they have an agenda, and it's not your well-being and autonomy."

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In chess, if you have no good options, and still must move, it's called Zugzwang. [View all] bemildred Sep 2013 OP

Great word! oberliner Sep 2013 #1

Once before I used it here, in 2004: bemildred Sep 2013 #3

And quite correctly oberliner Sep 2013 #4

It's so rare that I google myself. nt bemildred Sep 2013 #5

du rec. xchrom Sep 2013 #2

That is one I'll have to remember. David__77 Sep 2013 #6

Makes me think the best move might have been not to take a seat at the game in the 1st place. n/t jtuck004 Sep 2013 #7

If the game is rigged, for one instance. nt bemildred Sep 2013 #8

Exactly. n/t jtuck004 Sep 2013 #11

The option to stand up and walk away always exists. /nt TheMadMonk Sep 2013 #29

VERY pertinent, thanks for sharing! Turborama Sep 2013 #9

They would not be doing that. bemildred Sep 2013 #10

I'd think so, too Turborama Sep 2013 #12

Right: "The very fact they are so vehement to get you to do something, ..., tells you ..." bemildred Sep 2013 #13

Might be something to do with the format I'm reading it from Turborama Sep 2013 #15

Oh no. It's clear as a well-formed bell. delrem Sep 2013 #27

So right now we are seeing Zugzwang in four dimensions, right? Threedifferentones Sep 2013 #14

+1. It makes perfect sense to me, but I have had weasels come at me from GoneFishin Sep 2013 #16

Right, it's an attack, an attempt to subvert your self-possession. nt bemildred Sep 2013 #22

Brilliant. mac56 Sep 2013 #17

It's free, just don't try to sell it. nt bemildred Sep 2013 #23

No worries there! mac56 Sep 2013 #28

A totally brilliant post. delrem Sep 2013 #18

OK, in the journal. nt bemildred Sep 2013 #24

The only winning move for the US in Syria is not to play stevenleser Sep 2013 #19

Not to play at war, there are other things that we could do, "win-win" kind of things. bemildred Sep 2013 #25

I'm glad to see you've also come to that conclusion. leveymg Sep 2013 #35

N-th dimensional Zugzwang! I get it! oh, he's a clever one, that prez. KG Sep 2013 #20

I really did hope heaven05 Sep 2013 #26

yeah true heaven05 Sep 2013 #21

Setting a deadline is the worst thing you can do in a negotiation. FarCenter Sep 2013 #30

+1. It just gives them a weapon to use against you. bemildred Sep 2013 #32

The President has never lost a chess game. tridim Sep 2013 #31

By virtue of having never played one cthulu2016 Sep 2013 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author GoneFishin Sep 2013 #38

Recommended. hunter Sep 2013 #33

Thank you. nt bemildred Sep 2013 #34

DURec leftstreet Sep 2013 #37