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In reply to the discussion: Of all JK's lies, this one is the most disturbing: "The President Is Not Asking You To Go To War" [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)11. "Secretary of State John Kerry delivered a fiery rebuke to...Sen. Rand Paul’s line of questioning"
"Of all JK's lies, this one is the most disturbing: "The President Is Not Asking You To Go To War""
Again, just because you disagree with Kerry, doesn't mean he's telling "lies." He stated his case in context, and you choose to ignore it.
Secretary of State John Kerry delivered a fiery rebuke to Republican Kentucky Sen. Rand Pauls line of questioning at the Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing on possible U.S. engagement in Syria Tuesday. Kerry said Americans were not going to be declaring war in the classic sense, and that 100% of Americans would say no to such a scenario.
We dont want to go to war. We dont believe we are going to go war in the classic sense of taking american troops and America to war, Kerry said to Paul. The president is asking for the authority to do a limited action that will degrade the capacity of a tyrant who has been using chemical weapons to kill his own people. Its a limited action. Its limited.
Kerry continued, abated, by Sen. Paul saying, if your goal is not to win you shouldnt be involved.
Senator, when people are asked do you want to go to war in Syria? Of course not. Everybody, 100% of Americans will say no, we say no. We dont want to go to war in Syria either. It is not what we are here to ask. The President it is not asking you to go to war. He is not asking you to declare war. He is not asking you to send one American troop to war, Kerry said.
Kerry, making the case that action would be limited, said action was needed to degrade Assads capacity to use chemical weapons. Arguing again it wasnt war in the classic sense.
He is simply saying we need to take an action that can degrade the capacity of a man who has been willing to kill his own people by breaking a nearly 100-year-old prohibition, and will we stand up and be counted to say we wont do that, Kerry added. Ya know, I just dont consider that going to war in the classic sense of coming to congress and asking for a declaration of war and training troops and sending people abroad and putting young americans in harms way. That is not what the president is asking for here.
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http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/john-kerry-we-are-not-going-to-war-in-the-classic-sense
We dont want to go to war. We dont believe we are going to go war in the classic sense of taking american troops and America to war, Kerry said to Paul. The president is asking for the authority to do a limited action that will degrade the capacity of a tyrant who has been using chemical weapons to kill his own people. Its a limited action. Its limited.
Kerry continued, abated, by Sen. Paul saying, if your goal is not to win you shouldnt be involved.
Senator, when people are asked do you want to go to war in Syria? Of course not. Everybody, 100% of Americans will say no, we say no. We dont want to go to war in Syria either. It is not what we are here to ask. The President it is not asking you to go to war. He is not asking you to declare war. He is not asking you to send one American troop to war, Kerry said.
Kerry, making the case that action would be limited, said action was needed to degrade Assads capacity to use chemical weapons. Arguing again it wasnt war in the classic sense.
He is simply saying we need to take an action that can degrade the capacity of a man who has been willing to kill his own people by breaking a nearly 100-year-old prohibition, and will we stand up and be counted to say we wont do that, Kerry added. Ya know, I just dont consider that going to war in the classic sense of coming to congress and asking for a declaration of war and training troops and sending people abroad and putting young americans in harms way. That is not what the president is asking for here.
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http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/john-kerry-we-are-not-going-to-war-in-the-classic-sense
http://election.democraticunderground.com/10023590177
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Of all JK's lies, this one is the most disturbing: "The President Is Not Asking You To Go To War" [View all]
cali
Sep 2013
OP
He also sat there and told Chris Hayes that both he and Hagel opposed the Iraq War
Bluenorthwest
Sep 2013
#2
It's a lie for Kerry and anyone else to say that war does not start until boots are on the ground:
AnotherMcIntosh
Sep 2013
#28
I guess that depends on what the definition of "is" is and when a "lie" isn't really a lie.
MNBrewer
Sep 2013
#36
"Secretary of State John Kerry delivered a fiery rebuke to...Sen. Rand Paul’s line of questioning"
ProSense
Sep 2013
#11
Can we do some "limited strikes" in your neighborhood? It won't be war, I promise.
Comrade Grumpy
Sep 2013
#70
Pearl Harbor was "limited action that will degrade the capacity" of the USA,
grahamhgreen
Sep 2013
#49
I am also very dilsappointed, and more than a little worried, however . . .
another_liberal
Sep 2013
#57