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ProSense

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14. I posted the other resolutions, and the quote doesn't contradict my point:
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 03:06 PM
Sep 2013
When I vote to give the President of the United States the authority to use force, if necessary, to disarm Saddam Hussein, it is because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a threat, and a grave threat, to our security and that of our allies in the Persian Gulf region. I will vote yes because I believe it is the best way to hold Saddam Hussein accountable. And the administration, I believe, is now committed to a recognition that war must be the last option to address this threat, not the first, and that we must act in concert with allies around the globe to make the world's case against Saddam Hussein.

As the President made clear earlier this week, ``Approving this resolution does not mean that military action is imminent or unavoidable.'' It means ``America speaks with one voice.''

Let me be clear, the vote I will give to the President is for one reason and one reason only: To disarm Iraq of weapons of mass destruction, if we cannot accomplish that objective through new, tough weapons inspections in joint concert with our allies.

In giving the President this authority, I expect him to fulfill the commitments he has made to the American people in recent days--to work with the United Nations Security Council to adopt a new resolution setting out tough and immediate inspection requirements, and to act with our allies at our side if we have to disarm Saddam Hussein by force. If he fails to do so, I will be among the first to speak out.

If we do wind up going to war with Iraq, it is imperative that we do so with others in the international community, unless there is a showing of a grave, imminent--and I emphasize ``imminent''--threat to this country which requires the President to respond in a way that protects our immediate national security needs.

Prime Minister Tony Blair has recognized a similar need to distinguish how we approach this. He has said that he believes we should move in concert with allies, and he has promised his own party that he will not do so otherwise. The administration may not be in the habit of building coalitions, but that is what they need to do. And it is what can be done. If we go it alone without reason, we risk inflaming an entire region, breeding a new generation of terrorists, a new cadre of anti-American zealots, and we will be less secure, not more secure, at the end of the day, even with Saddam Hussein disarmed.

Let there be no doubt or confusion about where we stand on this. I will support a multilateral effort to disarm him by force, if we ever exhaust those other options, as the President has promised, but I will not support a unilateral U.S. war against Iraq unless that threat is imminent and the multilateral effort has not proven possible under any circumstances.

In voting to grant the President the authority, I am not giving him carte blanche to run roughshod over every country that poses or may pose some kind of potential threat to the United States. Every nation has the right to act preemptively, if it faces an imminent and grave threat, for its self-defense under the standards of law. The threat we face today with Iraq does not meet that test yet. I emphasize ``yet.'' Yes, it is grave because of the deadliness of Saddam Hussein's arsenal and the very high probability that he might use these weapons one day if not disarmed. But it is not imminent, and no one in the CIA, no intelligence briefing we have had suggests it is imminent. None of our intelligence reports suggest that he is about to launch an attack.

The argument for going to war against Iraq is rooted in enforcement of the international community's demand that he disarm. It is not rooted in the doctrine of preemption. Nor is the grant of authority in this resolution an acknowledgment that Congress accepts or agrees with the President's new strategic doctrine of preemption. Just the opposite. This resolution clearly limits the authority given to the President to use force in Iraq, and Iraq only, and for the specific purpose of defending the United States against the threat posed by Iraq and enforcing relevant Security Council resolutions.

The definition of purpose circumscribes the authority given to the President to the use of force to disarm Iraq because only Iraq's weapons of mass destruction meet the two criteria laid out in this resolution.

Congressional action on this resolution is not the end of our national debate on how best to disarm Iraq. Nor does it mean we have exhausted all of our peaceful options to achieve this goal. There is much more to be done. The administration must continue its efforts to build support at the United Nations for a new, unfettered, unconditional weapons inspection regime. If we can eliminate the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction through inspections, whenever, wherever, and however we want them, including in palaces--and I am highly skeptical, given the full record, given their past practices, that we can necessarily achieve that--then we have an obligation to try that as the first course of action before we expend American lives in any further effort.

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"...Kerry stated at that time that he expected President Bush.. Segami Sep 2013 #1
He did not break that promise karynnj Sep 2013 #64
good job hfojvt Sep 2013 #71
Of course it's a lie. He's a fucking LIAR cali Sep 2013 #2
When Kerry challenged Bush to answer four questions... Segami Sep 2013 #3
You're wrong. Kerry opposed the DECISION to go to war when weapon inspectors proved blm Sep 2013 #4
23 Senators actually voted No on the invasion, Kerry voted Yes, Hagel voted Yes. Biden voted Yes. Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #7
And when inspectors proved WMDs were not there, Kerry stood with them and against blm Sep 2013 #12
A Yes vote was support for the decision to go to war and no amount of spin can change that Bjorn Against Sep 2013 #9
He voted Yes, and said at the time that should weapon inspectors not find what blm Sep 2013 #11
The yes vote was legally binding support for the war, the promise to stand against was mere rhetoric Bjorn Against Sep 2013 #15
Like Obama and his signing statement on the NDAA. OnyxCollie Sep 2013 #44
voting yes meant that his protests afterward would mean nothing. roguevalley Sep 2013 #54
You vote to get inspectors in and see what they find. blm Sep 2013 #55
anyone who voted for this at any stage is a weasel. I live in the boonies of roguevalley Sep 2013 #60
They were informed it would include UN weapon inspection process. blm Sep 2013 #61
Baghdad Johnny voted to give bush a blank check and cali Sep 2013 #65
there was a time in late February hfojvt Sep 2013 #70
+1,000 n/t malaise Sep 2013 #19
Thanks tio you, BLM - here is a link to David Frum in the National Review blasting Kerry for speakin karynnj Sep 2013 #66
Kerry did oppose the decision. ProSense Sep 2013 #5
23 Senators actually voted No on the invasion, Kerry voted Yes, Hagel voted Yes. Biden voted Yes. Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #8
I posted the other resolutions, and the quote doesn't contradict my point: ProSense Sep 2013 #14
I notice that you don't include Hillary Clinton karynnj Sep 2013 #67
A Yes vote to authorize Bush to go to war is not opposing the war Bjorn Against Sep 2013 #10
I guess she thinks it will Aerows Sep 2013 #16
He DID stand against the decision to invade after inspections. blm Sep 2013 #22
A Yes vote Aerows Sep 2013 #24
To use another example, the "near win" on the Amash amendment. OnyxCollie Sep 2013 #45
I'd be dizzy, but the bullshit smells Aerows Sep 2013 #47
And he said if weapon inspector reports proved there were no WMDs he'd blm Sep 2013 #18
Once again voting Yes is supporting the war even if he promised to oppose it later Bjorn Against Sep 2013 #25
At the time weapon inspections were part of IWR...other Yes Dems said the same blm Sep 2013 #28
He supported the war before the report was released Bjorn Against Sep 2013 #30
Nope - he promised IN THAT SAME SPEECH to stand against a decision blm Sep 2013 #33
He stood for the decision before he stood against it Bjorn Against Sep 2013 #35
The TRUTH matters. And it doesn't change. He did what he SAID he'd do blm Sep 2013 #41
He voted for the DECISION to invade Bjorn Against Sep 2013 #43
Then why the UN resolution to put inspectors in? blm Sep 2013 #56
These are some of the same people ProSense Sep 2013 #52
He voted yes Aerows Sep 2013 #27
He did stand against the DECISION to invade, just as he promised when he blm Sep 2013 #31
OMG Aerows Sep 2013 #48
He voted "Yes" Aerows Sep 2013 #13
Still baloney - he was against the DECISION TO INVADE after the weapon inspectors blm Sep 2013 #20
He voted YES to invade Iraq Aerows Sep 2013 #21
No one said he didn't vote Yes on IWR. And at the time IWR included weapon inspections blm Sep 2013 #26
You were just arguing and so was ProSense Aerows Sep 2013 #29
I made no such silly assertion. ProSense Sep 2013 #34
Since when did "use of military force" not mean war? NuclearDem Sep 2013 #36
The attempts to spin Aerows Sep 2013 #38
"No, it wasn't an official declaration of war, but" ProSense Sep 2013 #50
Kerry didn't agree with Bush's decision to go to invade Iraq. Aerows Sep 2013 #37
The vote was in October 2002 - the inspectors came in AFTER that the decision to go to war was March karynnj Sep 2013 #68
Do you even believe the shit you are saying? Bjorn Against Sep 2013 #39
I know exactly what I'm saying, and really don't give a shit what you think. n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #51
Oh, it's obvious that you don't give a shit what anyone thinks Aerows Sep 2013 #73
No, I said clearly that his was a tough vote, but, he stuck to his word blm Sep 2013 #57
The AUMF was an authorization to use military force against Iraq. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #17
He voted yes Aerows Sep 2013 #23
geez, he not only voted for it then, in 2004 he said he'd do it again. KG Sep 2013 #40
He's a member of the administration now NuclearDem Sep 2013 #42
It's like they expect to hold Aerows Sep 2013 #46
The politics of convenience. Dove when convenient. Hawk when convenient..or when the boss says so. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2013 #6
those of us who were paying attention since 2002 are not fooled by Kerry's attempt... mike_c Sep 2013 #32
The first person of note The Wizard Sep 2013 #49
Except now Dean supports attacking Syria. dixiegrrrrl Sep 2013 #58
Because Biden-Lugar would have prevented war in Iraq? blm Sep 2013 #59
In fall of 2002, when the resolutions were voted on, Dean supported a resolution against Iraq karynnj Sep 2013 #69
lying for the boss is his job. Kerry, like his boss, is a liar bowens43 Sep 2013 #53
Bunch of despicable liars jsr Sep 2013 #62
If you are referring to the OP - I agree karynnj Sep 2013 #72
k&r Little Star Sep 2013 #63
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