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61. Syrian Chemical Weapons Attack Carried Out by Rebels, Says UN (UPDATE)
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 09:47 PM
Sep 2013
http://guardianlv.com/2013/08/syrian-chemical-weapons-attack-carried-out-by-rebels-says-un/

Syrian Chemical Weapons Attack Carried Out by Rebels, Says UN (UPDATE)
Added by Graham Noble on August 27, 2013.
Saved under Graham Noble, Op-ed, Syria, World

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As the Syrian revolt continues to tear the country apart, the international community has been eager to condemn Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, even as it became clear that the rebels do not, in fact, represent a popular uprising against the oppression of the Assad regime. According to UN diplomat Carla del Ponte, however, it appears that the recent chemical weapons attack, in April, was carried out by the Syrian rebels and not the regime, as it had been widely assumed. Speaking to a Swiss television channel, del Ponte said that there were “strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof,” that rebels had carried out the attack. She also said UN investigators had seen no evidence of the Syrian army using chemical weapons, but that further investigation was needed.

A spokesman for the rebels denied responsibility for the most recent attack, which allegedly involved the deployment of sarin nerve gas. He pointed out that the Free Syrian Army does not possess the missiles or shells necessary to deliver the chemical agent. Sarin gas, however, can be delivered in a number of ways. Additionally, while the rebels claim that the chemical agent was delivered by missiles or artilery, there is no evidence of a missile strike or shelling in any of the many videos that have been uploaded to the internet in the wake of the alleged attack.

After swift initial progress in the more than two-year-old conflict, the rebel advance was stalled as Lebanese terror group Hezbollah sent fighters to the regime’s aid. Whilst a number of towns have been taken and then retaken by each side, Assad’s forces have gradually gained the upper hand. With his army making gains and the eyes of the world upon him, it seems unlikely that the Syrian President would risk carrying out a chemical attack – particularly against an urban area. The Syrian government has flatly denied responsibility for this latest alleged chemical weapons attack and although not widely reported in the western media, there is broad suspicion that it was, indeed, carried out by the rebels. Ultimately, it may prove impossible for UN inspectors to determine who was responsible for the incident. Further, their investigation may be curtailed by the seemingly imminent military action – possibly in the form of cruise missile strikes – by the United States and the United Kingdom.

US President Obama has sent out mixed messages, regarding his intentions towards Syria; whilst he has stated that the US would not take military action against Syria without a UN mandate, it appears that preparations for an attack are already well underway, with American and British naval forces massing in the region. There is widespread speculation that strikes could be carried out within a week, despite strong and repeated warnings from both Russia and Iran, as well as the Syrian regime itself.

One of the most ominous repercussions of US intervention against the Syrian government is the possibility that Iran and it’s surrogate in Lebanon, Hezbollah, will launch strikes against Israel, in retaliation. This, in turn, could lead to a regional war, with Russia and the US lined up on opposing sides.

The United States government has been quick to condemn the Syrian government for the latest chemical weapons attack. Now that much of the evidence suggests it may have been carried out by the al-Qaeda-affiliated rebels, President Obama should remember that he, along with his supporters and political allies, devoted much time to condemning his predecessor for leading the US into war based on questionable intelligence.



UPDATE: This article was updated to clarify one or two points that some of our readers found misleading: The chemical attack earlier this year was widely blamed on the Syrian regime. It is this attack that the UN now concludes was carried out by Syrian rebels. It appears unlikely – for a number of reasons – that the most recent August 21st attack was carried out by government forces – despite the rush to judgement within the international community – although this has yet to be fully determined. It is clear that both sides in the Syrian conflict have the means to use chemical weapons and it would be misguided to assume that either side has a moral objection to such attacks.

As Jean Pascal Zanders, formerly of the European Union Institute for Security Studies, has pointed out ”In fact, we – the public – know very little beyond the observation of outward symptoms of asphyxiation and possible exposure to neurotoxicants, despite the mass of images and film footage. For the West’s credibility, I think that governments should await the results of the U.N. investigation.”

An Editorial by Graham J Noble

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IMO sense isn't common in this administration...... bowens43 Sep 2013 #1
This administration is good!! janlyn Sep 2013 #2
WTF? Common sense test says last thing the Assad regime wanted was this situation. Warren Stupidity Sep 2013 #3
+1 Dems to Win Sep 2013 #14
Now you're just using too much common sense. morningfog Sep 2013 #28
Heh. JackRiddler Sep 2013 #77
Occam's Razor is common sense... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #29
Actually Occam's razor and common sense need not be the same thing at all. Warren Stupidity Sep 2013 #47
easy peasy another run by Occam's Razor VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #59
actually VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #69
My opinion exactly Yo_Mama Sep 2013 #54
Was is 'common sense' to believe Saddam had drones Rex Sep 2013 #4
did we have gassed people to see with our own eyes VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #30
Saddam had gassed his own people duriing the Iran/Iraq war . .. markpkessinger Sep 2013 #49
and was Obama President then? The Republicans were and we know how they feel about VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #51
Sure, I was. That didn't mean I thought it was advisable to invade Iraq n/t markpkessinger Sep 2013 #55
"Common-sense"... Would seem to be that rebels stole chemical weapons and used them to drum up Taitertots Sep 2013 #5
Indeed. "Common-sense" says that the DAY the UN CW inspectors arrive is not the DAY... Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #7
Let me get this straight nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #6
Yeah, that's about the size of it . . . markpkessinger Sep 2013 #56
I am definitely in the wrong business nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #62
It's horrifying n/t Catherina Sep 2013 #74
"The White House is lying again" also passes the "common-sense test" FarCenter Sep 2013 #8
It's surreal they would even advance this a valid line of reasoning. reformist2 Sep 2013 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #9
Damn, yeah. I did not mean to link to a reply post page. morningfog Sep 2013 #15
Please. This is a devastating story and needs to be disseminated far and wide. Completely HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #18
sure it does....those gassed humans mean nothing... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #32
Hey sport, how many more humans are you willing to kill based merely based on 'common sense'? You're HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #34
Fixed. Thanks. morningfog Sep 2013 #17
Bless you! Peace! - nt HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #19
The White House has lost their minds LittleBlue Sep 2013 #10
The entire regime change policy toward Syria has been fucking stupid. leveymg Sep 2013 #41
That's an extremely euphemistic way of saying that it is plausible. JVS Sep 2013 #11
"And jurors, during your deliberations ignore the evidence you've heard, and just go with your gut!" reformist2 Sep 2013 #12
This administration has become a total joke Bjorn Against Sep 2013 #16
If common sense was really all that common, it wouldn't be remarked upon when it happens. hobbit709 Sep 2013 #20
Before I was merely sad. Now I am really mad. Those sociopathic lying warmongering, HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #21
you mean the babykillers that used chemical weapons to do it? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #33
Post removed Post removed Sep 2013 #35
Does the 'common sense' theory apply to OUR OWN War Criminals then? Can we just arrest them and sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #22
Hunch: The UN inspectors are starting to get results... Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #23
Obama's Magic 8 Ball said "Most signs point to probably" NightWatcher Sep 2013 #24
He has not consulted the mighty Carnac the Great! Miss Cleo should have some input too... L0oniX Sep 2013 #68
Kick for the goddamned motherfucking outrage - nt HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #25
McDonough's exact quote on "uh,...what we know." morningfog Sep 2013 #26
Dear White House whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #27
+Infinity x Infinity! - nt HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #31
What? woo me with science Sep 2013 #36
Common sense is sorely lacking in this entire clusterfuck. rug Sep 2013 #37
What? woo me with science Sep 2013 #38
Common sense test says that going to war requires evidence beyond a reasonable doubt leveymg Sep 2013 #39
What the HELL? woo me with science Sep 2013 #40
Kick woo me with science Sep 2013 #42
Even IF they had 'irrefutable evidence' linking the attacks to Assad . . . markpkessinger Sep 2013 #43
Thank you. woo me with science Sep 2013 #44
^^^^this^^^^ L0oniX Sep 2013 #65
+1000000 n/t Catherina Sep 2013 #73
Shameful and embarassing, stop it, just stop it. n/t Jefferson23 Sep 2013 #45
... City Lights Sep 2013 #46
So... the US went from "irrefutable evidence" to "common sense"... ocpagu Sep 2013 #48
Sorry, Mr. President -- I don't want my country engaging in acts of war . . . markpkessinger Sep 2013 #50
And that sound you hear madville Sep 2013 #52
Yet O's cheerleaders will say durablend Sep 2013 #81
So after being told yesterday that I was SomethingFishy Sep 2013 #53
That was...2003. I wish I were kidding nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #75
Seems to me . . . markpkessinger Sep 2013 #57
Common sense is the least common of the senses. :-p brisas2k Sep 2013 #58
Syrian Chemical Weapons Attack Carried Out by Rebels, Says UN (UPDATE) brisas2k Sep 2013 #61
Trying to evade the tough question by claiming Assad did not do it treestar Sep 2013 #60
And the proof is?... in the folds of someone's pants. :-p brisas2k Sep 2013 #63
"the evidence is quite clear" ocpagu Sep 2013 #66
There is evidence treestar Sep 2013 #70
Response to Government References to MSF Syria Statement deutsey Sep 2013 #71
Excellent post. Thanks. n/t Laelth Sep 2013 #79
There you have your answer. ocpagu Sep 2013 #72
Yeah ...well ...the only place this is "common sense" is in the fucking DC bubble. FFS! L0oniX Sep 2013 #64
"Common sense:" Hear a lotta 'bout that in Gungeon. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #67
Joe Biden said this day would come, and we'd have to stand with the President. Common Sense Party Sep 2013 #76
k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Sep 2013 #78
I'll pretend to be surprised. 99Forever Sep 2013 #80
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