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DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
21. Neither are astounding......
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 10:08 PM
Sep 2013

...at least not to me. Since Ike left us the word, we've known that the MIC was in-charge of things. He gave us a heads-up but most just thought he was a doddering old guy about to lose his job and retire to the golf course. So they humored him, ''Oh yeah Ike, whoa that big, bad MIC. Boy! Hmmm. Gee, we'll be on the lookout for those guys, you bet!''

In truth, most thought we were the greatest power in the world and nobody questioned it except the Soviets which basically meant nobody questioned it. And nobody knew (definitely) who controlled it. Nobody knows that now (except in that common-sense way our President is so fond of saying). But Ike was trying to tell us that he didn't control it. So if the President didn't control it, who did? No one asks (especially after JFK, MX, MLK, & RFK) since no one wanted to rock the boat or get their head blown off. Like George Carlin said, ''everybody wants a cellphone that makes pancakes so no one says anything.''

The other non-astounding thing -- that the NSA didn't know what Snowden took -- was and still is the subject of several news reports. He covered his tracks so well they didn't know where he'd been because he circumvented the logfiles in a way they weren't familiar with. Which is understandable when you contract out your national security to the private sector.

Governments are generally stupider than most people think. I mean, they're basically us, so we know the truth. They mostly just seem knowing and authoritative and with guns at the back of it, you tend to pay attention. But it's the contractors (as in this case) that know what makes everything work. Just like in the real world where it's us that makes the machine work.

- And it's only us that can shut it down since it can do nothing without us......

K&R

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Yeah, Obama didn't know he had restrictions on NSA reversed in 2011 jsr Sep 2013 #1
Sounds extremely naive at best. dipsydoodle Sep 2013 #2
good gawd fascisthunter Sep 2013 #3
What about the one asking him the question in the first place, were they being irresponsibly Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #5
Why would asking the president a question be irresponsibly stupid? n/t cui bono Sep 2013 #20
go and read post 3, the president passed the question as a joke, why was it ask. Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #24
I don't think the joke was about the question. The joke was that he doesn't read ALL the papers. cui bono Sep 2013 #27
You need some more comprehension in reading responses, go grab you favorite teddy bear andvsee if Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #29
You need some maturity. I purposely remained civil with you, yet you continue with your cui bono Sep 2013 #30
who brought up the irresponsibility stupidity first, go ask them. Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #31
Omg... again with your circles. You really have no intention of having a discussion so why are you cui bono Sep 2013 #32
yes you are ridiculous, can't stand you own medicine, if you dont read the responses then why do you Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #33
Seriously, just answer one question. Just one time. cui bono Sep 2013 #34
Since i ask the question to the poster in #3, I did not receive an answer, this is the reason back Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #35
Okay, so I'm going to take that as two things. cui bono Sep 2013 #37
You seem to conclude what your problem is so you can reread what you posted. Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #38
So again, you refuse or cannot clarify you initial post in this subthread. cui bono Sep 2013 #39
I did clarify, you are not reading very well. Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #40
I don't think it's an act Demeter Sep 2013 #19
Since in your own words "leaving out the joke at the end" which should be a big clue, Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #4
See link below: cui bono Sep 2013 #25
I don't have a problem with this The Straight Story Sep 2013 #6
Okay, I'm as pissed at him as the rest of us here are, but that sounds more like a misspeak tavalon Sep 2013 #7
Is this a reference to the shadow government? Sanity Claws Sep 2013 #8
Yep. Iliyah Sep 2013 #9
That reminds me... OnyxCollie Sep 2013 #10
Same old story. progressoid Sep 2013 #41
K & R !!! WillyT Sep 2013 #11
Gee, I'm glad Obama found it such a laff riot. forestpath Sep 2013 #12
How does the President not know the daily activities of the JoePhilly Sep 2013 #13
Well then ...let's just hope he knows who has fingers on the nuke buttons. n/t L0oniX Sep 2013 #23
If sounds like the NSA has gone rogue, not Snowden. Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #14
Oh I believe it. Obama is primarily a spokesperson. That, alone, is a fulltime job. Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #15
I said this when it first came out. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #16
I believe him 100% Gman Sep 2013 #17
Pathetic Carolina Sep 2013 #18
Neither are astounding...... DeSwiss Sep 2013 #21
OH FOR FUCKING FUCKED FUCKUP FUCKING SAKE!!!!!!!! wtf? L0oniX Sep 2013 #22
private companies have no restrictions on information they can collect on you. I believe it when O Sunlei Sep 2013 #26
Bullshit, he didn't know. Bullshit. Th1onein Sep 2013 #28
^ Wilms Sep 2013 #36
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