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HardTimes99

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18. Every treaty the U.S. enters into acquires the full force and authority as the

Mon Sep 9, 2013, 08:56 AM

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U.S. Constitution. We are signatories to the U.N. Charter. The U.N. Charter authorizes the use of military force to either defend against an actual or imminent attack OR upon authorization of the U.N. Security Council.

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Would you support the impeachment of Barack Obama if he intervenes militarily in Syria? [View all] Nye Bevan Sep 2013 OP

Impeachment is for crimes. It isn't for getting rid of presidents you don't like. *Edit: It isn't?* DireStrike Sep 2013 #1

Many DUers seem to believe that military intervention would be a "war crime" (nt) Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #4

Without UN sanction it would be a war crime. morningfog Sep 2013 #7

Go pound salt. The UN has ZERO legal authority in ANYTHING. alphafemale Sep 2013 #8

The UN has zero legal authority? morningfog Sep 2013 #9

What's with this "legal authority under U.S. law" stuff, Commie? You must be one of those HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #13

The UN is a glorified fucking committee. alphafemale Sep 2013 #19

So are you advocating that the U.S. withdraw from the U.N. and stop HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #10

UN has say so over US law? alphafemale Sep 2013 #15

Every treaty the U.S. enters into acquires the full force and authority as the HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #18

Treaties are NOT law. nt alphafemale Sep 2013 #20

Oy vey. Please re-read Article VI of the U.S. Constitution HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #23

Treaties most certainly are law. morningfog Sep 2013 #24

Indian treaties may seem like historical documents, but, G_j Sep 2013 #27

Treaties are not law...Wow...searing brillance there. Katashi_itto Sep 2013 #39

What are the penalties for violating a treaty? alphafemale Sep 2013 #50

Who cares if you believe treaties aren't meaningful? Katashi_itto Sep 2013 #57

Not my point and you damn well know it. alphafemale Sep 2013 #58

Yes it is the point, you stated it yourself. Katashi_itto Sep 2013 #59

When have the STRONG adhered to a treaty. alphafemale Sep 2013 #63

And the answer is still is obvious, you just refuse to realize it. Katashi_itto Sep 2013 #65

Treaties are NOT equal to the Constitution. NYC Liberal Sep 2013 #26

No, the CONSTITUTION does MNBrewer Sep 2013 #45

Yeah we respect UN sanctions NEVER alphafemale Sep 2013 #47

The U S is a permanent member of the Security Council DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2013 #16

Article 6 of the US Constitution Xithras Sep 2013 #42

Does the UN dictate US Law. Yes or No? alphafemale Sep 2013 #29

Lol, the US has ratified the charters it has signed with the UN. morningfog Sep 2013 #32

Nothing out of the UN dictates US law. alphafemale Sep 2013 #34

The Constitution begs to differ. MNBrewer Sep 2013 #46

There is no such thing as International Law. alphafemale Sep 2013 #36

It would certainly be a crime against peace since it wouldn't be defensive. joshcryer Sep 2013 #22

Bush is and was the war crime of the century Obama is not guilty of anything except being born black Tippy Sep 2013 #35

It is always a waste. alphafemale Sep 2013 #66

Actually impeachment is a political process. joshcryer Sep 2013 #17

How about that. huh. DireStrike Sep 2013 #54

Unbelievable. n/t Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #2

Obama is 100% wrong on this, but impeachment is silly! n-t Logical Sep 2013 #3

Umm, I must have wound up at Free Republic by mistake... heading to DU now. eom tarheelsunc Sep 2013 #5

Good grief! HappyMe Sep 2013 #6

Nope Spider Jerusalem Sep 2013 #11

Don't support it, but I do think if it happens it would benefit Democrats eridani Sep 2013 #12

It would be a political bonanza but morally odious DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2013 #21

However you feel about this instance it's established law the president can order force DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2013 #14

Really? Do you want to cite the Constitutional basis for your contention? Yo_Mama Sep 2013 #30

It's the spirit of the law that deems the president the Commander In Chief. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2013 #33

Your examples have nothing to do with the current issue Yo_Mama Sep 2013 #37

What part of DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2013 #49

It is not established law that the president can order force without prior authorization always Yo_Mama Sep 2013 #67

If it is done unconstitutionally, yes. Yo_Mama Sep 2013 #25

No. Not in any way. We are signatories to the ban on the use MineralMan Sep 2013 #28

Show me where the CWC or any US implementation act authorizes attacks? Yo_Mama Sep 2013 #40

Ask me again after Bush's conviction. Democracyinkind Sep 2013 #31

Bush did go to Congress and did get authorization for Iraq Yo_Mama Sep 2013 #38

If the majority of Americans supported it leftstreet Sep 2013 #41

If Congress were to prohibit it, and he did it anyway, then yes. Xithras Sep 2013 #43

Obama Has No 'Intention' To Strike Syria If Congress Says No (NPR - 6 September) struggle4progress Sep 2013 #44

Yes, I would LittleBlue Sep 2013 #48

What ever! War criminals still run free and the law means nothing. n/t L0oniX Sep 2013 #51

Of course not! Impeachment is only YarnAddict Sep 2013 #52

As Gerald Ford said... David__77 Sep 2013 #53

For blowing the fuck out of someone? Naw Spirochete Sep 2013 #55

No and rusty fender Sep 2013 #56

Interesting that you did not vote in your own poll. MineralMan Sep 2013 #60

I thought I was the only one who noticed that... Ohio Joe Sep 2013 #61

Well, I usually look at the votes in polls to see how the MineralMan Sep 2013 #62

I very rarely vote in my own polls. Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #64

. Egalitarian Thug Sep 2013 #68