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karynnj

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64. He did not break that promise
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 10:47 AM
Sep 2013

He spoke out in January 2003 at Georgetown University - saying not to rush to war - to let the inspectors finish and to exhaust diplomacy. (Here is a DU link to the National Review article written basting Kerry as anti-war. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3358606&mesg_id=3358606

As to speaking out in February 2003, Kerry was in the hospital being treated for cancer. The Senate resolution was in support of the US troops and it got 99 votes - with only Zell Miller not voting! http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=108&session=1&vote=00061 The sponsor of the bill was Frist and he had 98 co-sponsors -

S.RES.95
Latest Title: A resolution commending the President and the Armed Forces of the United States of America.
Sponsor: Sen Frist, William H. [TN] (introduced 3/20/2003) Cosponsors (98)
Latest Major Action: 3/20/2003 Passed/agreed to in Senate. Status: Submitted in the Senate, considered, and agreed to without amendment by Yea-Nay Vote. 99 - 0. Record Vote Number: 61.
COSPONSORS(98), ALPHABETICAL [followed by Cosponsors withdrawn]: (Sort: by date)
Sen Akaka, Daniel K. [HI] - 3/20/2003
Sen Alexander, Lamar [TN] - 3/20/2003
Sen Allard, Wayne [CO] - 3/20/2003
Sen Allen, George [VA] - 3/20/2003
Sen Baucus, Max [MT] - 3/20/2003
Sen Bayh, Evan [IN] - 3/20/2003
Sen Bennett, Robert F. [UT] - 3/20/2003
Sen Biden, Joseph R., Jr. [DE] - 3/20/2003
Sen Bingaman, Jeff [NM] - 3/20/2003
Sen Bond, Christopher S. [MO] - 3/20/2003
Sen Boxer, Barbara [CA] - 3/20/2003
Sen Breaux, John B. [LA] - 3/20/2003
Sen Brownback, Sam [KS] - 3/20/2003
Sen Bunning, Jim [KY] - 3/20/2003
Sen Burns, Conrad R. [MT] - 3/20/2003
Sen Campbell, Ben Nighthorse [CO] - 3/20/2003
Sen Cantwell, Maria [WA] - 3/20/2003
Sen Carper, Thomas R. [DE] - 3/20/2003
Sen Chafee, Lincoln [RI] - 3/20/2003
Sen Chambliss, Saxby [GA] - 3/20/2003
Sen Clinton, Hillary Rodham [NY] - 3/20/2003
Sen Cochran, Thad [MS] - 3/20/2003
Sen Coleman, Norm [MN] - 3/20/2003
Sen Collins, Susan M. [ME] - 3/20/2003
Sen Conrad, Kent [ND] - 3/20/2003
Sen Cornyn, John [TX] - 3/20/2003
Sen Corzine, Jon S. [NJ] - 3/20/2003
Sen Craig, Larry E. [ID] - 3/20/2003
Sen Crapo, Mike [ID] - 3/20/2003
Sen Daschle, Thomas A. [SD] - 3/20/2003
Sen Dayton, Mark [MN] - 3/20/2003
Sen DeWine, Mike [OH] - 3/20/2003
Sen Dodd, Christopher J. [CT] - 3/20/2003
Sen Dole, Elizabeth [NC] - 3/20/2003
Sen Domenici, Pete V. [NM] - 3/20/2003
Sen Dorgan, Byron L. [ND] - 3/20/2003
Sen Durbin, Richard [IL] - 3/20/2003
Sen Edwards, John [NC] - 3/20/2003
Sen Ensign, John [NV] - 3/20/2003
Sen Enzi, Michael B. [WY] - 3/20/2003
Sen Feingold, Russell D. [WI] - 3/20/2003
Sen Feinstein, Dianne [CA] - 3/20/2003
Sen Fitzgerald, Peter [IL] - 3/20/2003
Sen Graham, Bob [FL] - 3/20/2003
Sen Graham, Lindsey [SC] - 3/20/2003
Sen Grassley, Chuck [IA] - 3/20/2003
Sen Gregg, Judd [NH] - 3/20/2003
Sen Hagel, Chuck [NE] - 3/20/2003
Sen Harkin, Tom [IA] - 3/20/2003
Sen Hatch, Orrin G. [UT] - 3/20/2003
Sen Hollings, Ernest F. [SC] - 3/20/2003
Sen Hutchison, Kay Bailey [TX] - 3/20/2003
Sen Inhofe, James M. [OK] - 3/20/2003
Sen Inouye, Daniel K. [HI] - 3/20/2003
Sen Jeffords, James M. [VT] - 3/20/2003
Sen Johnson, Tim [SD] - 3/20/2003
Sen Kennedy, Edward M. [MA] - 3/20/2003
Sen Kerry, John F. [MA] - 3/20/2003
Sen Kohl, Herb [WI] - 3/20/2003
Sen Kyl, Jon [AZ] - 3/20/2003
Sen Landrieu, Mary L. [LA] - 3/20/2003
Sen Lautenberg, Frank R. [NJ] - 3/20/2003
Sen Leahy, Patrick J. [VT] - 3/20/2003
Sen Levin, Carl [MI] - 3/20/2003
Sen Lieberman, Joseph I. [CT] - 3/20/2003
Sen Lincoln, Blanche L. [AR] - 3/20/2003
Sen Lott, Trent [MS] - 3/20/2003
Sen Lugar, Richard G. [IN] - 3/20/2003
Sen McCain, John [AZ] - 3/20/2003
Sen McConnell, Mitch [KY] - 3/20/2003
Sen Mikulski, Barbara A. [MD] - 3/20/2003
Sen Miller, Zell [GA] - 3/20/2003
Sen Murkowski, Lisa [AK] - 3/20/2003
Sen Murray, Patty [WA] - 3/20/2003
Sen Nelson, Bill [FL] - 3/20/2003
Sen Nelson, E. Benjamin [NE] - 3/20/2003
Sen Nickles, Don [OK] - 3/20/2003
Sen Pryor, Mark L. [AR] - 3/20/2003
Sen Reed, Jack [RI] - 3/20/2003
Sen Reid, Harry [NV] - 3/20/2003
Sen Roberts, Pat [KS] - 3/20/2003
Sen Rockefeller, John D., IV [WV] - 3/20/2003
Sen Santorum, Rick [PA] - 3/20/2003
Sen Sarbanes, Paul S. [MD] - 3/20/2003
Sen Schumer, Charles E. [NY] - 3/20/2003
Sen Sessions, Jeff [AL] - 3/20/2003
Sen Shelby, Richard C. [AL] - 3/20/2003
Sen Smith, Gordon H. [OR] - 3/20/2003
Sen Snowe, Olympia J. [ME] - 3/20/2003
Sen Specter, Arlen [PA] - 3/20/2003
Sen Stabenow, Debbie [MI] - 3/20/2003
Sen Stevens, Ted [AK] - 3/20/2003
Sen Sununu, John E. [NH] - 3/20/2003
Sen Talent, Jim [MO] - 3/20/2003
Sen Thomas, Craig [WY] - 3/20/2003
Sen Voinovich, George V. [OH] - 3/20/2003
Sen Warner, John [VA] - 3/20/2003
Sen Wyden, Ron [OR] - 3/20/2003


There are tons of things to dispute here - because this article maybe exceeds the level of cherry picking that Bush did in his intelligence estimate.

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"...Kerry stated at that time that he expected President Bush.. Segami Sep 2013 #1
He did not break that promise karynnj Sep 2013 #64
good job hfojvt Sep 2013 #71
Of course it's a lie. He's a fucking LIAR cali Sep 2013 #2
When Kerry challenged Bush to answer four questions... Segami Sep 2013 #3
You're wrong. Kerry opposed the DECISION to go to war when weapon inspectors proved blm Sep 2013 #4
23 Senators actually voted No on the invasion, Kerry voted Yes, Hagel voted Yes. Biden voted Yes. Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #7
And when inspectors proved WMDs were not there, Kerry stood with them and against blm Sep 2013 #12
A Yes vote was support for the decision to go to war and no amount of spin can change that Bjorn Against Sep 2013 #9
He voted Yes, and said at the time that should weapon inspectors not find what blm Sep 2013 #11
The yes vote was legally binding support for the war, the promise to stand against was mere rhetoric Bjorn Against Sep 2013 #15
Like Obama and his signing statement on the NDAA. OnyxCollie Sep 2013 #44
voting yes meant that his protests afterward would mean nothing. roguevalley Sep 2013 #54
You vote to get inspectors in and see what they find. blm Sep 2013 #55
anyone who voted for this at any stage is a weasel. I live in the boonies of roguevalley Sep 2013 #60
They were informed it would include UN weapon inspection process. blm Sep 2013 #61
Baghdad Johnny voted to give bush a blank check and cali Sep 2013 #65
there was a time in late February hfojvt Sep 2013 #70
+1,000 n/t malaise Sep 2013 #19
Thanks tio you, BLM - here is a link to David Frum in the National Review blasting Kerry for speakin karynnj Sep 2013 #66
Kerry did oppose the decision. ProSense Sep 2013 #5
23 Senators actually voted No on the invasion, Kerry voted Yes, Hagel voted Yes. Biden voted Yes. Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #8
I posted the other resolutions, and the quote doesn't contradict my point: ProSense Sep 2013 #14
I notice that you don't include Hillary Clinton karynnj Sep 2013 #67
A Yes vote to authorize Bush to go to war is not opposing the war Bjorn Against Sep 2013 #10
I guess she thinks it will Aerows Sep 2013 #16
He DID stand against the decision to invade after inspections. blm Sep 2013 #22
A Yes vote Aerows Sep 2013 #24
To use another example, the "near win" on the Amash amendment. OnyxCollie Sep 2013 #45
I'd be dizzy, but the bullshit smells Aerows Sep 2013 #47
And he said if weapon inspector reports proved there were no WMDs he'd blm Sep 2013 #18
Once again voting Yes is supporting the war even if he promised to oppose it later Bjorn Against Sep 2013 #25
At the time weapon inspections were part of IWR...other Yes Dems said the same blm Sep 2013 #28
He supported the war before the report was released Bjorn Against Sep 2013 #30
Nope - he promised IN THAT SAME SPEECH to stand against a decision blm Sep 2013 #33
He stood for the decision before he stood against it Bjorn Against Sep 2013 #35
The TRUTH matters. And it doesn't change. He did what he SAID he'd do blm Sep 2013 #41
He voted for the DECISION to invade Bjorn Against Sep 2013 #43
Then why the UN resolution to put inspectors in? blm Sep 2013 #56
These are some of the same people ProSense Sep 2013 #52
He voted yes Aerows Sep 2013 #27
He did stand against the DECISION to invade, just as he promised when he blm Sep 2013 #31
OMG Aerows Sep 2013 #48
He voted "Yes" Aerows Sep 2013 #13
Still baloney - he was against the DECISION TO INVADE after the weapon inspectors blm Sep 2013 #20
He voted YES to invade Iraq Aerows Sep 2013 #21
No one said he didn't vote Yes on IWR. And at the time IWR included weapon inspections blm Sep 2013 #26
You were just arguing and so was ProSense Aerows Sep 2013 #29
I made no such silly assertion. ProSense Sep 2013 #34
Since when did "use of military force" not mean war? NuclearDem Sep 2013 #36
The attempts to spin Aerows Sep 2013 #38
"No, it wasn't an official declaration of war, but" ProSense Sep 2013 #50
Kerry didn't agree with Bush's decision to go to invade Iraq. Aerows Sep 2013 #37
The vote was in October 2002 - the inspectors came in AFTER that the decision to go to war was March karynnj Sep 2013 #68
Do you even believe the shit you are saying? Bjorn Against Sep 2013 #39
I know exactly what I'm saying, and really don't give a shit what you think. n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #51
Oh, it's obvious that you don't give a shit what anyone thinks Aerows Sep 2013 #73
No, I said clearly that his was a tough vote, but, he stuck to his word blm Sep 2013 #57
The AUMF was an authorization to use military force against Iraq. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #17
He voted yes Aerows Sep 2013 #23
geez, he not only voted for it then, in 2004 he said he'd do it again. KG Sep 2013 #40
He's a member of the administration now NuclearDem Sep 2013 #42
It's like they expect to hold Aerows Sep 2013 #46
The politics of convenience. Dove when convenient. Hawk when convenient..or when the boss says so. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2013 #6
those of us who were paying attention since 2002 are not fooled by Kerry's attempt... mike_c Sep 2013 #32
The first person of note The Wizard Sep 2013 #49
Except now Dean supports attacking Syria. dixiegrrrrl Sep 2013 #58
Because Biden-Lugar would have prevented war in Iraq? blm Sep 2013 #59
In fall of 2002, when the resolutions were voted on, Dean supported a resolution against Iraq karynnj Sep 2013 #69
lying for the boss is his job. Kerry, like his boss, is a liar bowens43 Sep 2013 #53
Bunch of despicable liars jsr Sep 2013 #62
If you are referring to the OP - I agree karynnj Sep 2013 #72
k&r Little Star Sep 2013 #63
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