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ChairmanAgnostic

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36. Not true

Mon Sep 9, 2013, 01:41 PM

Sep 2013

The syrian people, the whole bloody middle east, and quite possibly the world wins.

And Mother Russia ends up wearing the tiara for their deft diplomacy, compared to our blind, deaf, and dumb dipsomancy

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So if Syria hands over their stockpile, Obama wins. [View all] trumad Sep 2013 OP

Yep. nt onehandle Sep 2013 #1

This isn't about Obama avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #97

I don't understand your statement Sheepshank Sep 2013 #110

Exactly. Tell it to the people who say the "warmonger" is a liar, CakeGrrl Sep 2013 #114

Coulda fooled me with all the excoriation the guy has gotten here on "Democratic" Underground. nt MADem Sep 2013 #131

wrong ... Putin wins ... Putin has offered Obama a way to save face. Eddie Haskell Sep 2013 #135

This OP is for you, eddie.. Cha Sep 2013 #137

At the very least he would save face, and could claim the win. last1standing Sep 2013 #2

I don't think Obama is worried about saving face. Whisp Sep 2013 #22

Then more's the pity. last1standing Sep 2013 #25

Some people can't see there is hope in this new development. Like there has to be a continuation lumpy Sep 2013 #33

Agreed. TwilightGardener Sep 2013 #42

K & R. n/t FSogol Sep 2013 #3

IF is sometimes the biggest word in the English language nt geek tragedy Sep 2013 #4

No, it's being proclaimed as Obama being "had" by Putin, or being rescued. TwilightGardener Sep 2013 #5

No---Kerry made the statement that Assad turn them over. trumad Sep 2013 #8

Right, but already the Wall St. Journal is saying that Russia seized on TwilightGardener Sep 2013 #17

That is Wall Street for ya'. The money-talk people are thinking about the next election already. lumpy Sep 2013 #37

Quote: Hissyspit Sep 2013 #32

The State Dept. has already walked back the offer. WilliamPitt Sep 2013 #6

Game playing... trumad Sep 2013 #16

They want Assad out too...he can go to Russia. Ellipsis Sep 2013 #21

and play checkers with The Snowing One. n/t Whisp Sep 2013 #23

Nobody respects the bully who BP2 Sep 2013 #7

Really--- so we're the bully? trumad Sep 2013 #11

+1 JustAnotherGen Sep 2013 #19

Sarin gas is awful, but insanity is BP2 Sep 2013 #28

Why wouldn't Assad be willing to place the weapons under UN control, with Russian assurances? LooseWilly Sep 2013 #66

yes we're the bully. robinlynne Sep 2013 #156

What would you do BP2 ? Nothing. lumpy Sep 2013 #39

No, the alsame Sep 2013 #9

Yep--- you're right. trumad Sep 2013 #14

Of course it is. I don't 840high Sep 2013 #27

It isn't about Obama/Kerry winning. There's going to have to be a UN Resolution first. KittyWampus Sep 2013 #10

I agree. trumad Sep 2013 #12

The UN agencies seem to be the reluctant ones. Hope they come through to help pressure lumpy Sep 2013 #41

No... joeybee12 Sep 2013 #13

You hope. lumpy Sep 2013 #43

Borderline personal attack... joeybee12 Sep 2013 #56

Agreed. n/t cui bono Sep 2013 #118

Everyone would win. Obama would get big credit. morningfog Sep 2013 #15

+1 nt Zorra Sep 2013 #144

I'm back to hoping. Just maybe . . . this will work. n/t pnwmom Sep 2013 #18

I am with you all the way. lumpy Sep 2013 #45

Susan Rice was breaking Olympic records nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #20

Yep -- "Assad, you have one MORE week" BP2 Sep 2013 #35

It might be a win for Putin. n/t L0oniX Sep 2013 #24

Obama always wins. Get used to it Neo-DU. tridim Sep 2013 #26

I hate to say it, but back in reality where I live nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #29

Yes, everything is complex in life. But still, Obama always wins. tridim Sep 2013 #31

Welcome to the kiddie wing of the ignore list nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #34

No prob Nadin.. Take your ball and go home. tridim Sep 2013 #38

Uh oh. She's in another kerfunkle. DevonRex Sep 2013 #113

She is closer to reality than those that give up their sense for worship of the new God. nm rhett o rick Sep 2013 #148

I don't understand Putin worship myself. But whatever floats your boat, Rick. DevonRex Sep 2013 #150

Insinuating that I worship Putin is intellectually irresponsible. I worship Democratic principles. rhett o rick Sep 2013 #151

Intellectually irresponsible, he says, after being the very one to introduce worship DevonRex Sep 2013 #153

" I find most often that when opponents are losing they will" rhett o rick Sep 2013 #155

+1 sagat Sep 2013 #52

So winning is the goal? Tell me when the last time he won? rhett o rick Sep 2013 #147

Neo-DU. OnyxCollie Sep 2013 #57

take that as a badge of honor Skittles Sep 2013 #140

I printed it out and put it on the 'fridge. OnyxCollie Sep 2013 #141

They are the brown shirts. They will follow their new God over the cliff. nm rhett o rick Sep 2013 #149

Are you really that naive? ocpagu Sep 2013 #70

The title of the OP is, "So if Syria hands over their stockpile, Obama wins." tridim Sep 2013 #71

No. This is what you said: ocpagu Sep 2013 #73

In the context of the OP, both are simply statements of fact. tridim Sep 2013 #80

I have a problem with you living in a parallel reality... ocpagu Sep 2013 #87

That's super. nt tridim Sep 2013 #91

But if he wins the Syria issue that doesn't mean he "always" wins. That would be just totodeinhere Sep 2013 #102

I don't see how you can say that given the number of proposals he has made that totodeinhere Sep 2013 #99

Clever old Obama! sibelian Sep 2013 #30

Not true ChairmanAgnostic Sep 2013 #36

"Deft diplomacy"--er, no. They've prevented the UNSC from doing anything about Syria-- TwilightGardener Sep 2013 #40

We have been attacking real and perceived enemies on foreign soil ChairmanAgnostic Sep 2013 #44

I'm sorry, have we bombed them yet? TwilightGardener Sep 2013 #48

A predator based missile is just as deadly as a small aerial bomb or ChairmanAgnostic Sep 2013 #51

Who determines what Assad's "entire" stockpile will be? OnyxCollie Sep 2013 #46

I'm also concerned about the specifics cali Sep 2013 #50

That's why there has to be a UN Resolution. Let's see if that happens. KittyWampus Sep 2013 #83

Let's not forget that it was the Russians who BP2 Sep 2013 #47

How has Obama been wrong? TwilightGardener Sep 2013 #49

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #122

Here's what happens if Syria gives up the weapons .... JoePhilly Sep 2013 #53

I find that insulting. I would hope that we all want a peaceful solution to this crisis. totodeinhere Sep 2013 #105

Glad to hear it (the second part I mean). JoePhilly Sep 2013 #125

Yes. Yes, he does win. Waiting For Everyman Sep 2013 #54

maybe if you haven't been paying attention Abq_Sarah Sep 2013 #55

If "winning" means floundering around ineptly, sure. Jester Messiah Sep 2013 #58

floundering around ineptly? trumad Sep 2013 #64

Hell no. Jester Messiah Sep 2013 #67

Dream on. trumad Sep 2013 #72

I will, proudly. [nt] Jester Messiah Sep 2013 #126

I disagree - he wins when ReTHUGS malaise Sep 2013 #59

Obama is not interested in that deal. The WH is walking back the comments davidn3600 Sep 2013 #60

We all win rusty fender Sep 2013 #61

Well, we'll see how this latest twist plays out. David__77 Sep 2013 #62

I think Putin will be considered the winner - Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2013 #63

I agree, Obama was out-flanked by Putin. HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #69

Yep LittleBlue Sep 2013 #89

Putin might be considered the winner. But if we find a peaceful way out of this totodeinhere Sep 2013 #107

I don't think so. HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #65

So your reason for hoping this to happen Union Scribe Sep 2013 #68

Has he fucking bombed anyone yet? trumad Sep 2013 #75

Lol. Union Scribe Sep 2013 #90

Really---that's your comeback? trumad Sep 2013 #94

Why would I bother? Union Scribe Sep 2013 #98

You have nothing. trumad Sep 2013 #100

been that way since 2006.. frylock Sep 2013 #121

the pressure is working warrior1 Sep 2013 #74

Good trumad Sep 2013 #76

yup warrior1 Sep 2013 #86

"it's a win for everyone" Ishoutandscream2 Sep 2013 #101

Yep shenmue Sep 2013 #77

Trust me--- they will commit mass suicide. trumad Sep 2013 #78

there's no point in alerting on crap like this carolinayellowdog Sep 2013 #84

He has a history of wishing death on DUers he disagrees with. Union Scribe Sep 2013 #93

No worries - shenmue Iliyah Sep 2013 #112

The world wins. Yo_Mama Sep 2013 #79

+1 nt. andym Sep 2013 #129

"IF Assad hands over his chemical weapons to the International community" I doubt this... hue Sep 2013 #81

I truly hope so. I really do. myrna minx Sep 2013 #82

Not according to the normal line-up of cons & faux lobs on the TV underpants Sep 2013 #85

If he does, and if Obama stops playing cowboy, WE win. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2013 #88

I don't really care who wins BainsBane Sep 2013 #92

True enough. hope it really happens. good post. nt 99th_Monkey Sep 2013 #95

The Folks in Washinton and AIPAC-PNAC Want War. Period School Teacher Sep 2013 #96

NO - PUTIN WINS. In my view, it takes a real leap of faith to pretend that the perception will be grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #103

Wow! trumad Sep 2013 #104

The world will see Waiting For Everyman Sep 2013 #130

It will be Aerows Sep 2013 #106

Yes. Why do you think it's been all tough TALK? DevonRex Sep 2013 #108

How long will that take? He has been talking tough for two years and the killing totodeinhere Sep 2013 #111

WTF are you talking about? WE are talking about CW use. DevonRex Sep 2013 #116

I hope that they give up their chemical weapons. But I would not think of this in terms of winning totodeinhere Sep 2013 #109

Agreed Iliyah Sep 2013 #115

K and R JaneyVee Sep 2013 #117

This isn't a game where Obama either wins or loses. cui bono Sep 2013 #119

I don't care HOW, or WHO gets to claim a "WIN", bvar22 Sep 2013 #120

The sit down and and shut up crowd are already claiming victory for the President Hydra Sep 2013 #124

The bog lives in a fantasy World. bvar22 Sep 2013 #133

I just started reading threads about an hour ago and I can't believe neverforget Sep 2013 #145

The only good thing is how obvious it was Hydra Sep 2013 #146

Not like Truman eh? GeorgeGist Sep 2013 #123

Of course the anti American sentiment is that we always forget the dead Americans trumad Sep 2013 #127

I sincerely hope it happens, too. And I hope any current war supporters would recognize that Marr Sep 2013 #128

Sorry, but Kerry went off script on this: grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #132

DU rec... SidDithers Sep 2013 #134

I was skeptical, and I rec'd you for old time's sake... but then Robb Sep 2013 #136

That would be the optimal outcome. nt AtomicKitten Sep 2013 #138

Sure, just like Bush won over Iraq. reusrename Sep 2013 #139

Not hardly. ozone_man Sep 2013 #142

We'll see. 99Forever Sep 2013 #143

Americans win. Obama, not so much LibAsHell Sep 2013 #152

Who cares if Obama "wins" whatever that might mean. Deep13 Sep 2013 #154