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Reply to warrior1 (Reply #74)

Mon Sep 9, 2013, 03:04 PM

Sep 2013

If Assad gives them up it's a win for everyone---except for the Morans who want to see him fail.

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So if Syria hands over their stockpile, Obama wins. [View all] trumad Sep 2013 OP

Yep. nt onehandle Sep 2013 #1

This isn't about Obama avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #97

I don't understand your statement Sheepshank Sep 2013 #110

Exactly. Tell it to the people who say the "warmonger" is a liar, CakeGrrl Sep 2013 #114

Coulda fooled me with all the excoriation the guy has gotten here on "Democratic" Underground. nt MADem Sep 2013 #131

wrong ... Putin wins ... Putin has offered Obama a way to save face. Eddie Haskell Sep 2013 #135

This OP is for you, eddie.. Cha Sep 2013 #137

At the very least he would save face, and could claim the win. last1standing Sep 2013 #2

I don't think Obama is worried about saving face. Whisp Sep 2013 #22

Then more's the pity. last1standing Sep 2013 #25

Some people can't see there is hope in this new development. Like there has to be a continuation lumpy Sep 2013 #33

Agreed. TwilightGardener Sep 2013 #42

K & R. n/t FSogol Sep 2013 #3

IF is sometimes the biggest word in the English language nt geek tragedy Sep 2013 #4

No, it's being proclaimed as Obama being "had" by Putin, or being rescued. TwilightGardener Sep 2013 #5

No---Kerry made the statement that Assad turn them over. trumad Sep 2013 #8

Right, but already the Wall St. Journal is saying that Russia seized on TwilightGardener Sep 2013 #17

That is Wall Street for ya'. The money-talk people are thinking about the next election already. lumpy Sep 2013 #37

Quote: Hissyspit Sep 2013 #32

The State Dept. has already walked back the offer. WilliamPitt Sep 2013 #6

Game playing... trumad Sep 2013 #16

They want Assad out too...he can go to Russia. Ellipsis Sep 2013 #21

and play checkers with The Snowing One. n/t Whisp Sep 2013 #23

Nobody respects the bully who BP2 Sep 2013 #7

Really--- so we're the bully? trumad Sep 2013 #11

+1 JustAnotherGen Sep 2013 #19

Sarin gas is awful, but insanity is BP2 Sep 2013 #28

Why wouldn't Assad be willing to place the weapons under UN control, with Russian assurances? LooseWilly Sep 2013 #66

yes we're the bully. robinlynne Sep 2013 #156

What would you do BP2 ? Nothing. lumpy Sep 2013 #39

No, the alsame Sep 2013 #9

Yep--- you're right. trumad Sep 2013 #14

Of course it is. I don't 840high Sep 2013 #27

It isn't about Obama/Kerry winning. There's going to have to be a UN Resolution first. KittyWampus Sep 2013 #10

I agree. trumad Sep 2013 #12

The UN agencies seem to be the reluctant ones. Hope they come through to help pressure lumpy Sep 2013 #41

No... joeybee12 Sep 2013 #13

You hope. lumpy Sep 2013 #43

Borderline personal attack... joeybee12 Sep 2013 #56

Agreed. n/t cui bono Sep 2013 #118

Everyone would win. Obama would get big credit. morningfog Sep 2013 #15

+1 nt Zorra Sep 2013 #144

I'm back to hoping. Just maybe . . . this will work. n/t pnwmom Sep 2013 #18

I am with you all the way. lumpy Sep 2013 #45

Susan Rice was breaking Olympic records nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #20

Yep -- "Assad, you have one MORE week" BP2 Sep 2013 #35

It might be a win for Putin. n/t L0oniX Sep 2013 #24

Obama always wins. Get used to it Neo-DU. tridim Sep 2013 #26

I hate to say it, but back in reality where I live nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #29

Yes, everything is complex in life. But still, Obama always wins. tridim Sep 2013 #31

Welcome to the kiddie wing of the ignore list nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #34

No prob Nadin.. Take your ball and go home. tridim Sep 2013 #38

Uh oh. She's in another kerfunkle. DevonRex Sep 2013 #113

She is closer to reality than those that give up their sense for worship of the new God. nm rhett o rick Sep 2013 #148

I don't understand Putin worship myself. But whatever floats your boat, Rick. DevonRex Sep 2013 #150

Insinuating that I worship Putin is intellectually irresponsible. I worship Democratic principles. rhett o rick Sep 2013 #151

Intellectually irresponsible, he says, after being the very one to introduce worship DevonRex Sep 2013 #153

" I find most often that when opponents are losing they will" rhett o rick Sep 2013 #155

+1 sagat Sep 2013 #52

So winning is the goal? Tell me when the last time he won? rhett o rick Sep 2013 #147

Neo-DU. OnyxCollie Sep 2013 #57

take that as a badge of honor Skittles Sep 2013 #140

I printed it out and put it on the 'fridge. OnyxCollie Sep 2013 #141

They are the brown shirts. They will follow their new God over the cliff. nm rhett o rick Sep 2013 #149

Are you really that naive? ocpagu Sep 2013 #70

The title of the OP is, "So if Syria hands over their stockpile, Obama wins." tridim Sep 2013 #71

No. This is what you said: ocpagu Sep 2013 #73

In the context of the OP, both are simply statements of fact. tridim Sep 2013 #80

I have a problem with you living in a parallel reality... ocpagu Sep 2013 #87

That's super. nt tridim Sep 2013 #91

But if he wins the Syria issue that doesn't mean he "always" wins. That would be just totodeinhere Sep 2013 #102

I don't see how you can say that given the number of proposals he has made that totodeinhere Sep 2013 #99

Clever old Obama! sibelian Sep 2013 #30

Not true ChairmanAgnostic Sep 2013 #36

"Deft diplomacy"--er, no. They've prevented the UNSC from doing anything about Syria-- TwilightGardener Sep 2013 #40

We have been attacking real and perceived enemies on foreign soil ChairmanAgnostic Sep 2013 #44

I'm sorry, have we bombed them yet? TwilightGardener Sep 2013 #48

A predator based missile is just as deadly as a small aerial bomb or ChairmanAgnostic Sep 2013 #51

Who determines what Assad's "entire" stockpile will be? OnyxCollie Sep 2013 #46

I'm also concerned about the specifics cali Sep 2013 #50

That's why there has to be a UN Resolution. Let's see if that happens. KittyWampus Sep 2013 #83

Let's not forget that it was the Russians who BP2 Sep 2013 #47

How has Obama been wrong? TwilightGardener Sep 2013 #49

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #122

Here's what happens if Syria gives up the weapons .... JoePhilly Sep 2013 #53

I find that insulting. I would hope that we all want a peaceful solution to this crisis. totodeinhere Sep 2013 #105

Glad to hear it (the second part I mean). JoePhilly Sep 2013 #125

Yes. Yes, he does win. Waiting For Everyman Sep 2013 #54

maybe if you haven't been paying attention Abq_Sarah Sep 2013 #55

If "winning" means floundering around ineptly, sure. Jester Messiah Sep 2013 #58

floundering around ineptly? trumad Sep 2013 #64

Hell no. Jester Messiah Sep 2013 #67

Dream on. trumad Sep 2013 #72

I will, proudly. [nt] Jester Messiah Sep 2013 #126

I disagree - he wins when ReTHUGS malaise Sep 2013 #59

Obama is not interested in that deal. The WH is walking back the comments davidn3600 Sep 2013 #60

We all win rusty fender Sep 2013 #61

Well, we'll see how this latest twist plays out. David__77 Sep 2013 #62

I think Putin will be considered the winner - Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2013 #63

I agree, Obama was out-flanked by Putin. HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #69

Yep LittleBlue Sep 2013 #89

Putin might be considered the winner. But if we find a peaceful way out of this totodeinhere Sep 2013 #107

I don't think so. HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #65

So your reason for hoping this to happen Union Scribe Sep 2013 #68

Has he fucking bombed anyone yet? trumad Sep 2013 #75

Lol. Union Scribe Sep 2013 #90

Really---that's your comeback? trumad Sep 2013 #94

Why would I bother? Union Scribe Sep 2013 #98

You have nothing. trumad Sep 2013 #100

been that way since 2006.. frylock Sep 2013 #121

the pressure is working warrior1 Sep 2013 #74

Good trumad Sep 2013 #76

yup warrior1 Sep 2013 #86

"it's a win for everyone" Ishoutandscream2 Sep 2013 #101

Yep shenmue Sep 2013 #77

Trust me--- they will commit mass suicide. trumad Sep 2013 #78

there's no point in alerting on crap like this carolinayellowdog Sep 2013 #84

He has a history of wishing death on DUers he disagrees with. Union Scribe Sep 2013 #93

No worries - shenmue Iliyah Sep 2013 #112

The world wins. Yo_Mama Sep 2013 #79

+1 nt. andym Sep 2013 #129

"IF Assad hands over his chemical weapons to the International community" I doubt this... hue Sep 2013 #81

I truly hope so. I really do. myrna minx Sep 2013 #82

Not according to the normal line-up of cons & faux lobs on the TV underpants Sep 2013 #85

If he does, and if Obama stops playing cowboy, WE win. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2013 #88

I don't really care who wins BainsBane Sep 2013 #92

True enough. hope it really happens. good post. nt 99th_Monkey Sep 2013 #95

The Folks in Washinton and AIPAC-PNAC Want War. Period School Teacher Sep 2013 #96

NO - PUTIN WINS. In my view, it takes a real leap of faith to pretend that the perception will be grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #103

Wow! trumad Sep 2013 #104

The world will see Waiting For Everyman Sep 2013 #130

It will be Aerows Sep 2013 #106

Yes. Why do you think it's been all tough TALK? DevonRex Sep 2013 #108

How long will that take? He has been talking tough for two years and the killing totodeinhere Sep 2013 #111

WTF are you talking about? WE are talking about CW use. DevonRex Sep 2013 #116

I hope that they give up their chemical weapons. But I would not think of this in terms of winning totodeinhere Sep 2013 #109

Agreed Iliyah Sep 2013 #115

K and R JaneyVee Sep 2013 #117

This isn't a game where Obama either wins or loses. cui bono Sep 2013 #119

I don't care HOW, or WHO gets to claim a "WIN", bvar22 Sep 2013 #120

The sit down and and shut up crowd are already claiming victory for the President Hydra Sep 2013 #124

The bog lives in a fantasy World. bvar22 Sep 2013 #133

I just started reading threads about an hour ago and I can't believe neverforget Sep 2013 #145

The only good thing is how obvious it was Hydra Sep 2013 #146

Not like Truman eh? GeorgeGist Sep 2013 #123

Of course the anti American sentiment is that we always forget the dead Americans trumad Sep 2013 #127

I sincerely hope it happens, too. And I hope any current war supporters would recognize that Marr Sep 2013 #128

Sorry, but Kerry went off script on this: grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #132

DU rec... SidDithers Sep 2013 #134

I was skeptical, and I rec'd you for old time's sake... but then Robb Sep 2013 #136

That would be the optimal outcome. nt AtomicKitten Sep 2013 #138

Sure, just like Bush won over Iraq. reusrename Sep 2013 #139

Not hardly. ozone_man Sep 2013 #142

We'll see. 99Forever Sep 2013 #143

Americans win. Obama, not so much LibAsHell Sep 2013 #152

Who cares if Obama "wins" whatever that might mean. Deep13 Sep 2013 #154