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Waiting For Everyman

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66. You're right.

Mon Sep 9, 2013, 03:23 PM

Sep 2013

No big stick, no concessions. And this was a pretty shocking concession. I think it indicates how weak Assad is, and how weak his alliances are.

Obama can go after him a piece at time, it doesn't have to be in one sitting. If Assad games this offer he will look more and more shady, and lose more credibility. At some point, he will just be done. I'd think it would be better if that did not happen as suddenly as it might've with the initially proposed strike.

This gives the UN a foothold, which could dislodge the stalemate.

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OK, so let me see if I have this right... (w/ edit) [View all] WilliamPitt Sep 2013 OP

I'll wait to see if the administration cali Sep 2013 #1

It's CHESS! Haven't you ever played chess before?! :) polichick Sep 2013 #2

Now, the TPP should be the next move. Then the chained CPI. Brilliant. AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #19

TPP SamKnause Sep 2013 #56

Just two-dimensional chess. Sorry. beerandjesus Sep 2013 #31

Chess or Checkers? RC Sep 2013 #52

I expect some needle threading soon. morningfog Sep 2013 #3

Who will do the inspections/verifications? WilliamPitt Sep 2013 #6

Yep, and six months from now BP2 Sep 2013 #38

try to keep up. international politics and diplomacy is not simple. Pretzel_Warrior Sep 2013 #4

Exactly Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2013 #73

Bill, let me summarize everything for you. DontTreadOnMe Sep 2013 #5

"5. This forces chaos in Syria and Assad is pushed out" WilliamPitt Sep 2013 #7

Obama and Putin made the pick last week, but they can't tell you now... DontTreadOnMe Sep 2013 #13

Stop. Just, stop. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #20

You will look like the fool next week DontTreadOnMe Sep 2013 #21

After a glance at your transparency page NuclearDem Sep 2013 #28

Oh my God. WilliamPitt Sep 2013 #22

Billy Boy DontTreadOnMe Sep 2013 #36

And if none of that happens will you delete your account? cleanhippie Sep 2013 #55

And do you want me to vote Republican too? DontTreadOnMe Sep 2013 #61

So you won't put your money where your mouth is. Got it. cleanhippie Sep 2013 #67

Only a fool bets against Obama... DontTreadOnMe Sep 2013 #83

But I'm not betting against Obama, I'm betting against you and your nonsense. cleanhippie Sep 2013 #84

Turns out Obama worked it out... but keep bashing Obama if it makes you feel better DontTreadOnMe Sep 2013 #87

Getting really tired... RetroLounge Sep 2013 #81

Still gonna point to this thread, Billy Boy? cleanhippie Sep 2013 #86

Not at all Mr. Clean DontTreadOnMe Sep 2013 #88

So you completely reverse your position, claim victory, and throw in a personal insult? cleanhippie Sep 2013 #90

Yeah, it's 5th Dimensional Chess DontTreadOnMe Sep 2013 #91

I'll give you this much, you sure got brass ones. Lying about what you said when its visible above cleanhippie Sep 2013 #93

So they're manipulating everybody? sibelian Sep 2013 #32

Everyone? ... no just the EXTREME left and the GOP fell for another Obama trap DontTreadOnMe Sep 2013 #39

Manipulated into not supporting him? sibelian Sep 2013 #48

Which is it.. Obama is not listening to you, or is he just plain evil? DontTreadOnMe Sep 2013 #89

You tell me. sibelian Sep 2013 #92

Do I really have to post the Billy Madison clip again? NuclearDem Sep 2013 #8

Well, that's a heap of horse shit. morningfog Sep 2013 #9

You forgot the part about Israel and Iran. polichick Sep 2013 #10

Let's hope your dreams don't come true RobertEarl Sep 2013 #11

Gungeonite ... Trajan Sep 2013 #14

So, Don'tTreadOn Me Carolina Sep 2013 #44

You mean Obama and Putin working a deal while in Russia... is not OK with you? DontTreadOnMe Sep 2013 #49

oh puhleeze Carolina Sep 2013 #50

Nice fairy tale. n/t Comrade Grumpy Sep 2013 #64

More BOGGER performance art! RetroLounge Sep 2013 #82

More going on than we see or hear, I think. And a little skepticism is also in order TwilightGardener Sep 2013 #12

It's elementary, really jsr Sep 2013 #15

That PAWN Obama is holding is the EXTREME LEFT, they got played perfectly... DontTreadOnMe Sep 2013 #18

Anybody who uses the phrase "extreme left" is not to be taken seriously n/t markpkessinger Sep 2013 #23

+1 Starry Messenger Sep 2013 #29

+ another Scuba Sep 2013 #41

The perpetually discgruntled, paranoid... you know! DontTreadOnMe Sep 2013 #42

Anarchy isn't the extreme left, communism is. truebluegreen Sep 2013 #85

touche, marpkessinger! Carolina Sep 2013 #46

He should probably reserve his thanks for Putin. sibelian Sep 2013 #30

Don'tTrollOnMe whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #62

Ah, the name caller again... so childish, but expected DontTreadOnMe Sep 2013 #63

You don't have a whole lot of room to call other people name callers or childish. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #68

Yeah right... I am a Dem who supports the Dem President, SOS, H Clinton, etc... DontTreadOnMe Sep 2013 #76

If the Syrians really want to avoid war, they will stop blocking the oil-pipeline paths. AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #16

Yup. It's a strange sense of déjà vu nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #17

Hey now... it can't be over 1awake Sep 2013 #24

What if . . . geek tragedy Sep 2013 #25

White House speaking now..... Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #26

Sure sounds like they aren't expecting much from this. morningfog Sep 2013 #27

Damn the fire extinguishers..full bombs ahead.... Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #35

Sounds Reasonable, A Threat of Force as a Diplomatic Tool, Is Only Useful If Taken Seriously Skraxx Sep 2013 #34

TALK LOUDLY and Carry a Big Stick.... Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #40

So ... this isn't really just about saving face? LiberalAndProud Sep 2013 #33

Mr Pitt, your error is an honest one. I made the same error. But cthulu2016 Sep 2013 #37

10 minutes ago, CNN: "Syria 'welcomes' proposal to hand over control of chemical weapons" NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #43

From 5 mins ago - U.S. open to Russian chemical weapons proposal maddezmom Sep 2013 #47

Obama's winning! joeybee12 Sep 2013 #45

They don't want the war train derailed. David__77 Sep 2013 #51

It was obviously an offhand remark... BlueCheese Sep 2013 #53

Look, Assad and Putin have to believe, KNOW, that Syria is about to get bombed. DevonRex Sep 2013 #54

I agree and the last thing Skidmore Sep 2013 #57

BINGO. Game theory right there. This avoids his worst possible outcome. DevonRex Sep 2013 #59

"He's going to lose it anyway, and sooner rather than later" is what they were saying 2 years ago. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2013 #65

You're right. Waiting For Everyman Sep 2013 #66

That's what we needed. The UN to speak up and do something DevonRex Sep 2013 #69

I was saying last night that this reminded me of the Cuban Missile Crisis. Waiting For Everyman Sep 2013 #71

How right you are. It's only the beginning. DevonRex Sep 2013 #75

They say history repeats. Waiting For Everyman Sep 2013 #79

That's pretty much what I see as well. The sword of Damocles thing. nt Zorra Sep 2013 #72

You need another edit per Rice Autumn Sep 2013 #58

Whew, Peace Threatened and the Administration quickly responded.... Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #60

Do we want to destroy the chemical weapons or do we want to go to war?? kentuck Sep 2013 #70

If I didn't know better, Jamastiene Sep 2013 #74

Did you read what Kerry actually said in context? Just Saying Sep 2013 #77

Remember the thread you started years ago where we are on a ship at sea KittyWampus Sep 2013 #78

It is pretty simple actually William. TM99 Sep 2013 #80