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4. Regime change was not the goal of the potential strikes.

Reply to R. Daneel Olivaw (Original post)

Mon Sep 9, 2013, 10:18 PM

Sep 2013

But hey, the outrage won't just make itself.

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So now history is being rewritten to ignore that regime change was on the table? [View all] R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 OP

Meh. It'll be yet another story tomorrow. n/t winter is coming Sep 2013 #1

Regime change was an explicit goal in the Senate draft AUMF. morningfog Sep 2013 #2

In some Senate draft that hasn't been voted on? n/t pnwmom Sep 2013 #7

The VIDEO is from 4 months ago May 16, 2013 n/t NOVA_Dem Sep 2013 #10

So? Wanting Assad to step down isn't the same as being willing pnwmom Sep 2013 #13

the article is dated 2011 notadmblnd Sep 2013 #38

In the Senate draft out of the Foreign Relations Committee. The one that passed the committee. morningfog Sep 2013 #40

I am beginning to think we want a war newfie11 Sep 2013 #3

it came from 2 years ago. JoePhilly Sep 2013 #5

The OP was muddying up the waters with an article from 2 years ago, pnwmom Sep 2013 #8

AHAHAHAHAHA! Like that matters. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #9

Obama wasn't threatening in 2011 to attack Syria to bring about regime change pnwmom Sep 2013 #11

The video was from May 16, 2013. Come on. At least try to be consistent. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #15

Calling for Assad to be replaced is very different from being willing to start a war pnwmom Sep 2013 #17

What do you believe that the USA is doing right now? R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #18

There isn't one cohesive rebel group. And the strongest of the groups pnwmom Sep 2013 #42

Actually the war would be used to "change the momentum on the battlefield" Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #24

McCain is more hawkish on Syria than Obama has ever been. McCain wanted boots on the ground. nt pnwmom Sep 2013 #43

There's nothing in the resolution passed by the SFRC about changing the momentum on the bornskeptic Sep 2013 #44

Especially when we can just arm the rebels. Let them fight and die to achieve our ends. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2013 #39

Give them a break, pnwmom-not. That's all they have is crap like this. Cha Sep 2013 #37

The perpetually outraged aren't going to get a PNAC war like they hoped. JoePhilly Sep 2013 #46

Regime change was not the goal of the potential strikes. JoePhilly Sep 2013 #4

um. The only way to get a draft AUMF out of the senate committee was to Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #23

And? JoePhilly Sep 2013 #45

I've never argued Obama was waving his PNAC. I've argued against it, in fact. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #47

Well Done. bvar22 Sep 2013 #48

It wasn't. Not in 2013. Obama explicitly took it off the table -- your article was from 2 years ago. pnwmom Sep 2013 #6

Are you suggesting that President Obama was for it before he was against it? R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #12

I'm suggesting that it is a completely different thing to call for Assad to resign pnwmom Sep 2013 #14

See post #18. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #19

Fuck post #18. phleshdef Sep 2013 #21

What about post #24? Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #25

Yea, I'm well aware of what came out of the senate committee. phleshdef Sep 2013 #26

It reinforces the premise of the OP. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #28

It has everything to do with regime change, my little chicken. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #29

DId Kerry say in opening remarks to the senate committee last week, cthulu2016 Sep 2013 #32

The true believers only fool themselves LittleBlue Sep 2013 #16

There is nothing WRONG with wanting regime change in Syria. phleshdef Sep 2013 #20

Please stop with the hyperventilation. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #31

don't forget anyone who is for peace also has a sexual fetish for shirtless putin! bobduca Sep 2013 #34

Are you part of the al Queda fan club? former9thward Sep 2013 #36

I missed the memo. Am I not even supposed to *want* regime change in Syria now? Recursion Sep 2013 #22

That was no where near a threat to go to war bhikkhu Sep 2013 #27

Uhhh, ummmm, and the problem with "regime change" ---- IS????????1 nt UTUSN Sep 2013 #30

Revisionist Present bobduca Sep 2013 #33

Just more proof that this has nothing to do with chemical weapons, and is part of GoneFishin Sep 2013 #35

History is alway being rewritten and its' not history until it's done. Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #41