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In reply to the discussion: No, Obama does not got this. No, he is not Brilliant. No, this was never his plan. [View all]CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)...this was orchestrated by Obama and Kerry as a potential way out?
I say this because it's obvious that Syria is not Obama's project. This has PNAC/neocon fingerprints all over it. Obama saw the overwhelming outrage against war with Syria, and what did he do? He asked for a vote. I think he wanted an out--or at least he refused to solely carry that rancid bucket of neocon water all by himself.
Possibly, because the war backlash soared, they developed their own "out clause". Notice the State Department spokesperson speaks for Kerry and says Kerry's statement was wrong or rhetorical, or whatever? That's the neocons jumping in and defining that moment and saying, "Oh hell no!"
I know this...The PNAC/neocon brigade has had their sights on Syria for decades. Their plan laid out the countries they would target: Iraq, Iran, Syria, Lebanon. They want total domination of the region. No way in hell were we just staying long enough to lob a couple of cruise missiles, then head on home. Whatever those bastards concocted, would have put us there indefinitely--and it would be an explosive, paradigm-shifting scenario.
Maybe Kerry and Obama just said, "F this."
And I wouldn't put it past Putin to cooperate. He's sided with Syria against the US, but more importantly, Putin has sided with Iran over Israel. Iran has said that if the US bombs Syria, it will retaliate and bomb Israel. What do you want to bet that those horrible consequences would play out if the US bombs Syria??? That chain of events would spark events that would embroil our nation into war against Syria, Iran and their allies--including Russia.
I doubt Putin wants that garbage. We're talking the potential for nuclear weapons. Maybe Putin helped us play our way out if this?
The neocons think that we are stupid. They figured that we'd be sheep, as Obama led us into war. They probably figured that some of Obama's supporters would cheerleader us into Syria, just as the Bush supporters put on partisan blinders and justified Junior's every war crime.
Sorry, no. We're not that dumb.
I'm not saying that I have this right, but I know that Syria is part of the neocon game. Obama is not a neocon. I see signs of Obama backing out. We know our government lies to us, keeps the truth from us, so a scenario like this is entirely possible.