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JDPriestly

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114. So, Aristotle and Socrates and Jesus and St. Francis and Mary and Martin Luther and

Tue Sep 10, 2013, 04:47 AM

Sep 2013

Galileo and Da Vinci and Jane Austin and Charles Dickens and Bach and Beethoven and Pasteur and those who are creative and curious and innovative like Thomas Edison or those who inspire our best values just don't count?

I don't remember the names of the political leaders of Greece that well, but I do remember the names of those who wrote the great literature and histories of Greece. So, may I disagree with you?

I agree that Obama is something of a disappointment. I thought he would be far more progressive in his second term. Instead, he seems to be acquiescing to the pressure from the right. It's really a shame. He could be accomplishing far more if he stood boldly for positive things and stopped just reacting to the Republican negativity. I think he has tried at points, but he always seems to get lost in his defense strategies.

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So, Obama's Priority is War. Not jobs, not the deficit, not [View all] grahamhgreen Sep 2013 OP

The only major events that seem to be remembered in history are wars Victor_c3 Sep 2013 #1

So what War did MLK start? ThirdWayCowplop Sep 2013 #3

His name is only 50ish years old Victor_c3 Sep 2013 #6

So is it better to be remembered as a mass murderer than not remembered at all? Is that the sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #15

It depends on the person and what their motives are Victor_c3 Sep 2013 #42

True That! -- n/t mazzarro Sep 2013 #49

I hear you brother. Phlem Sep 2013 #101

So, Aristotle and Socrates and Jesus and St. Francis and Mary and Martin Luther and JDPriestly Sep 2013 #114

That is a really depressing prediction (but unfortunately possible) - nt HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #18

Or for that matter, Martin Luther n/t n2doc Sep 2013 #11

Who was "Marin (sic) Luther" again? Was he the HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #19

Autofill got me n/t n2doc Sep 2013 #22

Why dont you get brave and make a statement in lieu of using innuendo via question? nm rhett o rick Sep 2013 #91

Well, he didn't start a war, but a war finished him Scootaloo Sep 2013 #100

Jesus would disagree! Vinnie From Indy Sep 2013 #20

Well, there are those of us who remember fondly that little temper tantrum HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #24

It was the "Wrath of God" on a smaller scale warrant46 Sep 2013 #61

President Obama is already going into the history books. A Simple Game Sep 2013 #46

It was the motto of Erich Honecker in East Germany "Always forwards, never backwards.� /nt jakeXT Sep 2013 #62

You could say he's trying to create jobs in the only sector Republicans support. n/t mattclearing Sep 2013 #2

And Hillary according to the morning news is about to throw her support warrant46 Sep 2013 #21

My picture of Iraq: Bush standing under the "Mission Accomplished" banner. I go HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #26

That picture also comes to mind as the warrant46 Sep 2013 #33

That, my friend, is a brutal take-down - nt HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #27

Glad to be of service. ;) n/t mattclearing Sep 2013 #111

Here's me hoping that this isn't true. Democracyinkind Sep 2013 #4

He's pulling out all the stops. LuvNewcastle Sep 2013 #5

Cali said it best a couple days ago: Obama is beaching his presidency upon the HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #28

That's eloquent; leave it to Cali. LuvNewcastle Sep 2013 #41

It is not just Obama, John2 Sep 2013 #32

We fight to take away the control the shadow government has over our politicians! Dustlawyer Sep 2013 #39

That's right dreamnightwind Sep 2013 #85

I agree that it's not just Obama; he's just the face of LuvNewcastle Sep 2013 #40

You are so right! The Republicans should want the same thing, they can't be happy with Dustlawyer Sep 2013 #115

Rather sad Carolina Sep 2013 #51

And it's one, two, three, Alkene Sep 2013 #7

I don't think perpetual war is his priority cali Sep 2013 #8

He DOES seem overly fond of the Perpetual WAR POWERS of the Unitary Executive. bvar22 Sep 2013 #84

It's the priority of the people he listens to dreamnightwind Sep 2013 #86

I think it's beside the point what he thinks. I believe The Powers To Be are "helping" rhett o rick Sep 2013 #92

Dude, those things aren't even front page news anymore Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #9

I have to agree. another_liberal Sep 2013 #10

If only this message could be communicated to him! gtar100 Sep 2013 #12

Obama broke my heart... Moostache Sep 2013 #13

We see his true colors... 99Forever Sep 2013 #14

I think it is more PATRICK Sep 2013 #16

Imagine if he had fought this hard for the Public Option, imagine if he had stated that even if sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #17

+1 Marr Sep 2013 #55

+1 leftstreet Sep 2013 #56

Well, given that he doesn't have a war or the public option... Recursion Sep 2013 #107

So disappointed. Jester Messiah Sep 2013 #23

B.S. mrchips Sep 2013 #25

Funny how you don't mention white phosphor (Iraq) or napalm (Vietnam). You're HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #31

Why mention WP or napalm when we're talking about chemical weapons? Recursion Sep 2013 #106

Bullshit obxhead Sep 2013 #43

^^^AGREEED^^^ blue14u Sep 2013 #108

Send gas masks and atropine, make your case at the UN. grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #63

Makes sense... tridim Sep 2013 #29

damn obxhead Sep 2013 #44

Yes, that's exactly the kind of response that makes you look foolish. tridim Sep 2013 #50

one day I'll order a pair of those special glasses. obxhead Sep 2013 #65

Good, then you'll be able to see past your fucking snarky, "puppy for the girls"... tridim Sep 2013 #70

WOW! you think Obama has done more than medicare, ss, and obxhead Sep 2013 #75

Lol I clicked on that link LittleBlue Sep 2013 #57

Thanks tridim! sheshe2 Sep 2013 #95

People see what they want to see. Just Saying Sep 2013 #110

Only if you ignore his record out of a need to pout. nt geek tragedy Sep 2013 #30

Thanks, geek. elleng Sep 2013 #37

Oh please! Botany Sep 2013 #34

Thanks, Botany, elleng Sep 2013 #36

In 2004 I met a couple of men that served on the Swift Boat w/ J Kerry Botany Sep 2013 #52

Without that personal history, elleng Sep 2013 #54

How John Kerry got his bronze medal Botany Sep 2013 #60

Right, Right, Right. elleng Sep 2013 #83

Thanks Botany! sheshe2 Sep 2013 #97

Bull shit. elleng Sep 2013 #35

Just unbelievable gussmith Sep 2013 #38

yeah, Obama has been lobbying for jobs bills since he was elected and getting nothing but mulsh Sep 2013 #45

He didn't fight very hard for the jobs bill. As soon as he came up against resistance he gave up. liberal_at_heart Sep 2013 #64

The best jobs bill would be ending the costly trade agreements - he's on the wrong side of that too. grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #67

Trade agreements and wages are still big problems and I am not satisfied with Obama's answer liberal_at_heart Sep 2013 #69

But Jim DeMint said Obamacare was Obama's "waterloo." SunSeeker Sep 2013 #99

Sad, isn't it. I'm so upset, there are no real words to express hoew I feel. n/t Paper Roses Sep 2013 #47

But what's the best way to get this GOP congress NOT to approve something? ehrnst Sep 2013 #48

War, and the Police State. Don't forget the Police State. kenny blankenship Sep 2013 #53

+1 woo me with science Sep 2013 #66

Sad thing is this isn't the dumbest thing you've said. great white snark Sep 2013 #58

You can't argue that's its not the priority of the month:) grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #68

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #59

UNREC brooklynite Sep 2013 #71

Evidence? His speech on Tuesday is about attacking Syria. That makes it his priority:) grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #72

Not a logical argument Martin Eden Sep 2013 #73

But war is the top of his list. His priority. He went to The G20 and lobbied for it, he's grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #74

"priorities screwed up" Martin Eden Sep 2013 #78

When I look around, all I see is evidence of neglected and delayed priorities, grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #79

Sigh shenmue Sep 2013 #76

Wait, now you want to do the double speak and say that Obama's been lobbying for peace? He grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #77

A very simplistic, ignorant statement. CakeGrrl Sep 2013 #80

Really? Then what is his priority, then? grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #89

Good God Bobbie Jo Sep 2013 #81

+1 B Calm Sep 2013 #82

Really? Then what is his priority, then? grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #88

What, no reply? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you. n/t Egalitarian Thug Sep 2013 #90

? Bobbie Jo Sep 2013 #94

With no reply, of course. n/t Egalitarian Thug Sep 2013 #96

..... as opposed to this Bobbie Jo Sep 2013 #98

If I thought for one second Bobbie Jo Sep 2013 #93

TPTB can't worry about piffles when a despotic tyrant needs to be taught a lesson indepat Sep 2013 #87

Have you even read a newspaper in the last five years? Kolesar Sep 2013 #102

Wait til BHO gets his 30,000 Drones flying by your house. blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #103

The guy gives us one more nonsensical nonsentence Kolesar Sep 2013 #104

Quelle drivelle BeyondGeography Sep 2013 #105

In all fairness..... DeSwiss Sep 2013 #109

What unmitigated bullshit. Rosco T. Sep 2013 #112

If Obama's priority is perpetual war Summer Hathaway Sep 2013 #113