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In reply to the discussion: U.S. Military and Intelligence Officials to Obama: “Assad NOT Responsible for Chemical Attack” [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)223. Terror Tuesday guy thinks he's the right hand of Death on Earth.
It's nothing personal. It's business.
Did NSA and JSOC Team Up to Game Obama and Monaco on Yemen Terror Alert?
By: Jim White
EmptyWheel, Saturday August 17, 2013 10:46 am
NBC published a fascinating article yesterday that provided new and interesting details on the events surrounding the escalation of drone strikes in Yemen that took place in response to the intercepted conference call that wasnt a conference call. Matthew Cole, Richard Esposito and Jim Miklaszewski report on the personnel and policy changes that were taking place in the Obama administration as these events unfolded and how these changes had led to a decrease in drone strikes:
Obama announced that he had chosen Lisa Monaco to replace Brennan as his top counterterror official on January 25, and she officially assumed the role of Homeland Security Advisor on March 8. The U.S. launched four strikes on Yemen between January 19 and January 23, just before Obamas announcement about Monaco, but didnt launch another until April 17.
With Brennan going over to CIA and Monaco replacing him, it took time, said a senior counterterrorism official. This was a while coming. JSOC (the Pentagons Joint Special Operations Command) was pushing for more strikes and more operations but the White House slowed everything down.
Those three strikes in mid-April were followed by another lull in strikes until mid-May, when there were two strikes just before Obamas drone policy speech:
In tandem with the drone speech, the President issued new internal guidance to officials that tightened controls on what targets could be hit and who could make the decision to launch a drone.
What followed, sources said, was more frustration from Defense Department officials, and a third, seven-week-long interruption in drone strikes that led to a backlog of identified militant targets in Yemen.
But the targeting done by JSOC in Yemen isnt of the same quality as the information prepared for targeting by the CIA for strikes in Pakistan, according to the NBC report:
In May, around the time of Obamas speech, senior military officials prepared targeting packages for Monaco, with a roster of suspected militants in Yemen that they wanted to eliminate. The targeting packages contain background information on the identified targets. The CIAs packages for Pakistan are often very detailed, while the Defense Departments research on Yemeni targets was sometimes less detailed.
In fact, the JSOC apparently even admitted that some of these recent targeting packages pertained to lower level targets, but in an apparent use of pre-cogs, they claimed these were going to be important al Qaeda figures in the future and the administration had to deal with the question of pain now, or pain later in their recommendation to take out these lower level operatives.
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http://www.emptywheel.net/tag/john-brennan/
Brennan islikethis with Bandar Bush. Wayne Masden suspects him of being the henchman behind some heinous crimes, including the murder of a 9-11 author and his children and Michael Hastings, the reporter in the runaway Mercedes. I don't know, but i do know the business of war involves dollar amounts so big they have no compunction taking, or if they're gentlemen, in hiring someone to take innocent human life.
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U.S. Military and Intelligence Officials to Obama: “Assad NOT Responsible for Chemical Attack” [View all]
Catherina
Sep 2013
OP
Once again you blindly pin what little credibility you have to the administration line
whatchamacallit
Sep 2013
#9
+1. Agreed. They have already come to terms with killing each other. So tricking
GoneFishin
Sep 2013
#140
The CIA Takes Orders from the Same Billionaires which Staffs the State Dept
HumansAndResources
Sep 2013
#191
"but that any potential military attack against it should wait for a U.N. inspectors’ report."
ProSense
Sep 2013
#28
True, but only in that PS sticks to a specific subset of verifiable facts
mindwalker_i
Sep 2013
#143
+10000000 -- plenty of time for blind partisanship during campaign season.
nashville_brook
Sep 2013
#213
Politicians answer to the CIA and the NSA and the 16 other "intelligence Organizaions" that
iemitsu
Sep 2013
#155
Historically, V.I.P.S. has demonstrated great integrity and collectively deserves the utmost respect
proverbialwisdom
Sep 2013
#114
9/10- Gareth Porter: Some in US Intel. Community Reject Obama Admin Case for Syria Attack (part 1)
proverbialwisdom
Sep 2013
#236
It's not unplausible. But I have come to suspect that he leans that way already after
GoneFishin
Sep 2013
#142
It's lucky for PBO that he has decent people trying to stop him from this ill advised war
MNBrewer
Sep 2013
#5
Decent people? Larry Johnson did the "whitey tape" bullshit about Michelle Obama.
msanthrope
Sep 2013
#113
I would work with Ron Paul to keep us out of war. I would work with RAND Paul to do the same thing
MNBrewer
Sep 2013
#69
"Without corroboration, it's meaningless"? Where's the corroboration that you were in intelligence?
AnotherMcIntosh
Sep 2013
#96
I surmise their recent experience is likely better than 30 years more recent than yours.
rug
Sep 2013
#141
and of course they severe all ties with former coworkers and have zero inside connections..
frylock
Sep 2013
#53
Props and Kudo's to you MineralMan, trust me when I say I understand.
Rebellious Republican
Sep 2013
#73
You were a peon. Peons as we all well know have different rules and access than the bosses.
TheKentuckian
Sep 2013
#99
If you didn't care you wouldn't have made the statement and continued to argue it.
TheKentuckian
Sep 2013
#125
Nonsense. I'm willing to beleive that your experience in the intelligence business has no relevance
AnotherMcIntosh
Sep 2013
#85
How are you in a position to judge what they know vs. what Obama knows? nm
rhett o rick
Sep 2013
#188
Hang the facts, hang reason, hang legality: the RW PNAC agenda must move ahead at all cost
indepat
Sep 2013
#22
This entire article boils down to 3 meager paragraphs containing not one fact, no evidence.
KittyWampus
Sep 2013
#24
Barbara Lee, who was the only member of Congress to Vote against the Afghanistan War Authorization
DemocratSinceBirth
Sep 2013
#35
Or like the Iranians "Gassed Themselves" - or So We Were Told When The USA Was Backing Saddam
HumansAndResources
Sep 2013
#192
And if this is legit, why didn't the signers send their letter to major national media sources?
pnwmom
Sep 2013
#38
Or the Boston Globe, the Washington Post, The Chicago Tribune, the Seattle Times or any number
pnwmom
Sep 2013
#131
and none of that matters to me. what matters is the accuracy of this group in past..
frylock
Sep 2013
#132
Puh-leeze...the WP and the other "papers of record" don't want to vet the letter
Raksha
Sep 2013
#145
But I thought who did it didn't matter. They want their damn war and, by god, they'll it
valerief
Sep 2013
#37
Oh, I think that Assad's forces did it. The evidence for it appears much stronger than this
cali
Sep 2013
#44
What the hell do you mean, " . . . draw the US into a battle against them?"
another_liberal
Sep 2013
#72
Whatever Senator Kerry had access to before the Iraq War started was useless
David Krout
Sep 2013
#75
Kerry also seemed to forget what bringing down the strongman Saddam Hussein
amandabeech
Sep 2013
#147
Did the 12 people who sign this statement have to do with the 'Whitey' tape?
David Krout
Sep 2013
#80
Instead they're persisting. Grayson and Amash not impressed with their bogus intel
Catherina
Sep 2013
#78
Islamist factions among the rebels have already said they have chemical weapons.
another_liberal
Sep 2013
#149
Would all respondents to this OP who believe 9/11 was an inside job please step forward?
Flatulo
Sep 2013
#83
The link say that they are the one who make that statement...but I cannot found a single
Sand Wind
Sep 2013
#107
Your use of a double negative is suspicious. What nation do you represent? nm
rhett o rick
Sep 2013
#184
That sentence doesnt even make sense. Are you having trouble translating? What is
rhett o rick
Sep 2013
#187
Oh right, I remember you, you are the one who do not succeed about one of my video...
Sand Wind
Sep 2013
#189
What is your first language. Your sentences dont make any sense. You seem to be
rhett o rick
Sep 2013
#190
Since you don't have any source to back this frauds, I suppose that you don't have Internet ? Nt
Sand Wind
Sep 2013
#230
Whoo-hoo! Now we know what 9/11 Truthers and Larry "Whitey Tape" Johnson have to say!
Bolo Boffin
Sep 2013
#103
Larry Johnson previously claimed he had a tape of Michelle Obama saying "whitey"
msanthrope
Sep 2013
#105
Its a forgery : No, any U.S. Military and Intelligence Officials are saying that to Obama. Nt
Sand Wind
Sep 2013
#110
Interesting that VIPS cites a mirror image of a US-Israeli-Jordanian op reported by DEBKA on 08/17
leveymg
Sep 2013
#133
Nor do I. But, that one was hard to ignore. Is this the .ru site you referenced? Still up.
leveymg
Sep 2013
#162
It's real. Ray McGovern has it up on his blog. Thomas Drake tweeted it out, so did Robert Parry.
Catherina
Sep 2013
#161
"A war the Pentagon doesn’t want" By Robert H. Scales, retired Army major general
Catherina
Sep 2013
#166
If there is a shadow of doubt .. then we've go no business bombing that country.
YOHABLO
Sep 2013
#171
Qaddafi did all those things right before he was toppled. keyword: humanitarian vulcans
nashville_brook
Sep 2013
#214
Obama to U.S. military and intelligence officials, and to us, SO WHAT?
AnotherMcIntosh
Sep 2013
#211
what officials? everybody on that list has (ret) or (former) after their name.
arely staircase
Sep 2013
#216
While I opposed bombing Syria, I can't see how these people's opinion is any different than
OregonBlue
Sep 2013
#218
if assad didn't do it, then he should have no problem giving up the chemical weapons he
ellenfl
Sep 2013
#235