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Gman

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46. It's called brinkmanship

Reply to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:59 PM

Sep 2013

Read about John Foster Dulles. He may have eventually had to attack. But because this tactic worked he likely does not have to.

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So I'm expected to believe Obama never intended to attack Syria? [View all] whatchamacallit Sep 2013 OP

He never wanted to cut Social Security either jsr Sep 2013 #1

He still hasn't done that either n/t sharp_stick Sep 2013 #2

The Republicans wouldn't accept his offer Hydra Sep 2013 #25

Funny how that works sharp_stick Sep 2013 #29

What did the President do in either case to stop himself? n/t Hydra Sep 2013 #31

Not for lack of trying. forestpath Sep 2013 #27

Plus it's unlikely that he is going to refrain from trying again. AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #58

If there is anyone here whose current SS payments would be cut by Obama, please raise your hand. kelliekat44 Sep 2013 #70

But does his best to. avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #91

Knowing full well when he said it that the pukes weren't going to have anything to do with it madokie Sep 2013 #80

Warships are still there pjt7 Sep 2013 #3

U.S. Still Hasn't Armed Syrian Rebels Lifelong Dem Sep 2013 #48

It was public pressure that forced him to go to congress. morningfog Sep 2013 #4

+ pjt7 Sep 2013 #18

+1. nt OnyxCollie Sep 2013 #22

+1 leftstreet Sep 2013 #23

This. ^^^ CrispyQ Sep 2013 #26

Obama planned the UK vote MNBrewer Sep 2013 #36

Maybe, maybe not brush Sep 2013 #72

+1 woo me with science Sep 2013 #77

phfffft. Whisp Sep 2013 #83

Who said anything about DU? morningfog Sep 2013 #85

?? Javaman Sep 2013 #89

+1 nt Javaman Sep 2013 #88

No he intended to do it sharp_stick Sep 2013 #5

You wouldn't know it from the deranged victory lap being taken on DU today. whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #8

Deranged? sharp_stick Sep 2013 #12

Well ...the church collection plate was getting a little low. L0oniX Sep 2013 #15

I have not made any donations to DLC types in a long time PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #32

Because eveybody in office wants to be a war criminal, like Kissinger Demeter Sep 2013 #40

+100!! nt 99th_Monkey Sep 2013 #75

Truth is: Public Opinion won leftstreet Sep 2013 #6

I wish so very much that I could believe that. n/t L0oniX Sep 2013 #17

Not sure it's over yet. Hope so. n/t Dawgs Sep 2013 #37

At least, Public Opinion won the first round Demeter Sep 2013 #42

in the Uk, you mean. robinlynne Sep 2013 #43

...and the US leftstreet Sep 2013 #44

correlation != causation IDemo Sep 2013 #57

For now. woo me with science Sep 2013 #79

No, the stick only works if you JoePhilly Sep 2013 #7

in the words of TR CountAllVotes Sep 2013 #13

... and be ready to use it. JoePhilly Sep 2013 #47

I do think... NCTraveler Sep 2013 #24

I think ... JoePhilly Sep 2013 #53

The US government has developed this modus operandi... ocpagu Sep 2013 #9

Orwellian Hydra Sep 2013 #28

I don't believe it was a bluff, no. TwilightGardener Sep 2013 #10

Yep ...just like you were not expected to believe that he put SS on the table. n/t L0oniX Sep 2013 #11

It is Pee-Wee Herman diplomacy. KurtNYC Sep 2013 #14

bwah! Hydra Sep 2013 #30

Nope. I hope he DID intend to.... Adrahil Sep 2013 #16

Obama works in mysterious ways Capt. Obvious Sep 2013 #19

Haha! whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #21

Your only hope is to put your faith in Him. jsr Sep 2013 #35

+100!! nt 99th_Monkey Sep 2013 #76

He never liked Wall Street either, and really wanted single payer healthcare. polichick Sep 2013 #20

Nah. He just has the ability to change his mind in light of a better option. dorkulon Sep 2013 #33

You can believe that, or not... Orsino Sep 2013 #34

Chess games?? kiawah Sep 2013 #41

Little in the situation looks accidental. Orsino Sep 2013 #93

You can believe whatever you wish. Avalux Sep 2013 #38

How funny Cryptoad Sep 2013 #39

You have unlocked Delusion+1 whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #50

you can believe anything you want madrchsod Sep 2013 #45

It's called brinkmanship Gman Sep 2013 #46

First you have to learn how to not get dizzy when spinning in circles Marrah_G Sep 2013 #49

No, you're clearly not. Why would you think that? n/t pnwmom Sep 2013 #51

Obama would have lost the House vote orenbus Sep 2013 #52

Yep. whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #54

Sorry. Losing the House vote would be a victory for Obama. Avalux Sep 2013 #56

There's a Nobel Prize for Lamest President Ever? leftstreet Sep 2013 #60

... Avalux Sep 2013 #66

Yeah. sibelian Sep 2013 #90

The vote against military action would be bipartisan. And actually it would benefit the totodeinhere Sep 2013 #67

This - Avalux Iliyah Sep 2013 #71

Agreed - Avalux Iliyah Sep 2013 #73

Masterful Strategery and if you Disagree you are a Racist bobduca Sep 2013 #55

Why didn't he? nt geek tragedy Sep 2013 #59

Um... because the reviled Putin tossed him a lifeline? n/t whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #61

Sorry, the Kremlin rejects your ODS geek tragedy Sep 2013 #65

This place is filled with ODS these days, makes it hard to post here uponit7771 Sep 2013 #84

It looks like war with Syria may be averted. Maedhros Sep 2013 #62

Agreed whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #63

He did intend to with a "coalition of the willing" which disolved in the British Parliament and Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2013 #64

Its funny because the people claiming this to be multidimensional chess... RedCappedBandit Sep 2013 #68

Not really. Realpolitik. brush Sep 2013 #69

If and only if, you are under the impression this incident is over. LanternWaste Sep 2013 #74

Yes. AND there is no spying on the American people. woo me with science Sep 2013 #78

Should he have just asked Nicely? "Pweeeeeeeeeze Mr. Brutal Dictator?" Blue State Bandit Sep 2013 #81

I believe he never WANTED to attack Syria DFW Sep 2013 #82

+1 I think there's a huge huge tug of war taking place right now n/t Catherina Sep 2013 #87

doesn't matter spanone Sep 2013 #86

yes! he risked rejection by the Brits as part of a RUSE!!!! Skittles Sep 2013 #92