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Javaman

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29. reread what you wrote...

Wed Feb 29, 2012, 01:09 PM

Feb 2012

544 votes out of 97,488?

are you trying to honestly predict who the votes would have gone to?

if nader hadn't run, 97,488 votes would have been up for grabs.

no one on this earth can honestly predict how those people would have sided. many people that voted for nader were repukes.

if you can break down the votes by former party affiliation, that is another story, but alas, you can not.

so to say that nader was the spoiler because of 544 votes is very incorrect.

bottom line: all the votes weren't counted. katherine harris made sure of that. Then the final nail was put in the coffin by sandra day o'conner (may she rot in hell).

the rest is nothing more that blather.

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On MSNBC interview : Nader running [View all] jimmie Feb 2012 OP

wow. what a dumbass. he is directly responsible for the bush years. bowens43 Feb 2012 #1

No. ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2012 #4

lol, cool story bro... dionysus Feb 2012 #5

Who defended it? ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2012 #7

it wouldn't have been close enough to steal if Nader had sincerely endorsed Gore virtualobserver Feb 2012 #57

Was New Hampshire stolen? hfojvt Feb 2012 #65

This makes a false assumption. Spider Jerusalem Mar 2012 #83

I can't believe people are still blaming Nader for what the Court did. white_wolf Feb 2012 #12

They wont blame Gore. ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2012 #16

sandra day o'conner will forever be dead to me. Javaman Feb 2012 #26

She's a woman. She get to turn the spit that Rehnquist is roasting on. aquart Feb 2012 #45

Since he was the one they voted for, then YES, he was. aquart Feb 2012 #34

So the USSC did not make that decision? nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #28

The question is ... surfdog Feb 2012 #48

The fact that you framed this qusation the way you did nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #53

Yeah, pretty ridiculous. I guess it is "Nader Defenders Coming Out of the Woodwork Day" on DU. FSogol Feb 2012 #51

I prefer to lay blame where it exists nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #54

Ralph Nader - Useful Idiot. Nader Supporters - Plain-old Idiots. FSogol Feb 2012 #58

Given that Gore WON and that the count from the PRESS released on Sept 11 nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #61

I'm not blaming Nader, I'm ridiculing his supporters on DU. FSogol Feb 2012 #64

Again, I am glad how you talk of your fellow Americans nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #66

Laughable FSogol Feb 2012 #69

Alas you are assuming that if I defend his right to run by any eligible American... nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #70

truth. dionysus Mar 2012 #80

It's not an either/or proposition DefenseLawyer Feb 2012 #6

Math. ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2012 #11

So you are telling me I shouldn't assume that 544 of the 97,488 that voted Nader DefenseLawyer Feb 2012 #20

reread what you wrote... Javaman Feb 2012 #29

Have it your way, Chief. DefenseLawyer Feb 2012 #39

It's not my way. I can't predict how they would have voted Javaman Feb 2012 #41

It's not about "blame" DefenseLawyer Feb 2012 #42

+1 /nt October Feb 2012 #47

so by you giving him a +1 means you think I'm a nader supporter???? Javaman Feb 2012 #55

Wow. Way to jump to conclusions and assume I'm lazy. October Mar 2012 #89

1) I'm not defending nader... Javaman Feb 2012 #50

Saying he had the right to run DefenseLawyer Feb 2012 #72

Doesn't matter. ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2012 #75

If Gore had earned the votes? If my Aunt had a dick she'd be my Uncle DefenseLawyer Feb 2012 #76

Gore didn't run a bad campaign One of the 99 Mar 2012 #85

Yeah well, you know, that's just like, your opinion, man DefenseLawyer Mar 2012 #86

Doesn't change the fact One of the 99 Mar 2012 #90

No matter what spin you put on it he cost Gore the election in 2000. If it wasn't for him we demosincebirth Feb 2012 #10

Pathetic. ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2012 #14

You're the one that's pathetic. I'm not the one that's getting flamed. Maybe you're blinded by demosincebirth Feb 2012 #23

I don't know. Javaman Feb 2012 #30

Never voted for him. ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2012 #74

It was a perfect storm ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2012 #36

something is, for sure. nt dionysus Mar 2012 #81

The title of the court case was xxqqqzme Feb 2012 #73

Nader was responsible One of the 99 Mar 2012 #84

Define "stole" Ter Mar 2012 #92

Nader didn't cause Gore to fail to get the votes of the left in Florida. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2012 #17

yes and no. Javaman Feb 2012 #31

yep Liberal_in_LA Feb 2012 #43

Right. The 2000 election wasn't stolen and the Supreme Court had nothing to do with it. Better Believe It Feb 2012 #59

I wish he would too. applegrove Feb 2012 #77

Meh. Liberal Veteran Feb 2012 #2

my thoughts exactly, why run just for Pres unless to act as a spoiler Demonaut Feb 2012 #15

+1 nt Javaman Feb 2012 #32

Ick. madamesilverspurs Feb 2012 #3

He gladly takes contributions from Republicans DefenseLawyer Feb 2012 #8

Oh yippee sharp_stick Feb 2012 #9

Oh fuck him. HappyMe Feb 2012 #13

I'll suspend my reaction until this is confirmed, but Chorophyll Feb 2012 #18

In 2004 he got 0.38% of the vote. In 2008 he got 0.56% of the vote. Alexander Feb 2012 #19

Wait till the debates jimmie Feb 2012 #21

The debates he won't be participating in? Alexander Feb 2012 #63

Yeah, he's really zooming up the charts. nt Javaman Feb 2012 #33

Bush won Florida and the Presidency by just over 1,000 votes, out of millions cast. bluestate10 Feb 2012 #79

Bush "won" Florida by 537 votes. Nader won over 97,000 votes. Alexander Mar 2012 #91

I've been watching and didn't hear it. Are you sure you don't mean Bob Kerrey is considering maddezmom Feb 2012 #22

He's a modern day Lyndon Larouche Renew Deal Feb 2012 #24

.. Sinistrous Feb 2012 #25

Good for him. bigwillq Feb 2012 #27

The Koch Bros. have deep DEEP pockets. Tarheel_Dem Feb 2012 #35

He's running for what? craigmatic Feb 2012 #37

Fuck Nader. Odin2005 Feb 2012 #38

Seriously, Ralph? Arkana Feb 2012 #40

yawn....zzzzzzzzzzz spanone Feb 2012 #44

from another pie to the face? Rex Feb 2012 #46

I doubt anyone will take him seriously this time around. n/t Cleita Feb 2012 #49

Anyone have a link? Buehler? Buehler? eom Raine1967 Feb 2012 #52

Running? I hope he got an OK from the doc to do that. MineralMan Feb 2012 #56

I do not understamd why he keeps running. RebelOne Feb 2012 #60

He would have been able to accomplish so much more if he'd stayed a anti-corporate crusader. Arugula Latte Feb 2012 #62

What a fucking joke graywarrior Feb 2012 #67

anyone who votes for him now doesn't understand marlakay Feb 2012 #68

Looks like GOP dirty tricks spent some cash itsrobert Feb 2012 #71

Only a fool would vote for Nader given what is at stake. nt bluestate10 Feb 2012 #78

Fuck Nader. DevonRex Mar 2012 #82

This seems relevent Bruce Wayne Mar 2012 #87

and water is wet. Is a negative vote possible? magical thyme Mar 2012 #88