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In reply to the discussion: Why won't the President share with us his proof it was Assad? [View all]avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)46. These youtube videos don't prove anything.
We can't verify who is responsible. We can't even verify how many were killed...(estimated between 200 people and 1400 people)
When President Kennedy spoke to American public during the Cuban Missile Crisis he displayed U-2 flight photographs that provided positive proof of what the United States had for months suspected: that the Soviet Union was installing medium-range nuclear weapons in Cuba, capable of striking major U.S. cities and killing tens of millions of Americans within minutes. With the October 14 photographs, the United States caught the Soviet Union building offensive nuclear missile bases in its backyard.
In contrast Obama has not provided any proof whatsoever.
CNN explicitly stated the videos were hard to watch, but do not prove who was behind the attack. The Washington Post, in its coverage, also acknowledged, The videos do not make clear who used the chemical weapons.
The evidence that Assad ordered his own people to be gassed on August 21 is not as airtight as the Obama administration would like the public believe, as officials appear on news programs while media replay these videos on television. A German newspaper has recently reported that, according to German intelligence, Syrian brigade and division commanders had been asking the Presidential Palace to allow them to use chemical weapons for the last four-and-a-half months. However, Permission had always been denied, which raises questions about whether the August 21 attack was ordered by Assad or committed by rogue commanders.
As the Associated Press wrote in a September 8 report, The US government insists it has the intelligence to prove it, but the American public has yet to see a single piece of concrete evidenceno satellite imagery, no transcripts of Syrian military communicationsconnecting the government of President Bashar Assad to the alleged chemical weapons attack last month that killed hundreds of people..
AP further reported that the Obama administration has said its assessment is based mainly on satellite and signal intelligence, including indications in the three days prior to the attack that the regime was preparing to use poisonous gas. But, Multiple requests to view that satellite imagery have been denied, though the administration produced copious amounts of satellite imagery earlier in the war to show the results of the Syrian regimes military onslaught.
http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2013/09/08/obama-deploys-visceral-videos-of-alleged-chemical-attack-victims-to-manipulate-grow-support-for-syria-war/
The evidence that Assad ordered his own people to be gassed on August 21 is not as airtight as the Obama administration would like the public believe, as officials appear on news programs while media replay these videos on television. A German newspaper has recently reported that, according to German intelligence, Syrian brigade and division commanders had been asking the Presidential Palace to allow them to use chemical weapons for the last four-and-a-half months. However, Permission had always been denied, which raises questions about whether the August 21 attack was ordered by Assad or committed by rogue commanders.
As the Associated Press wrote in a September 8 report, The US government insists it has the intelligence to prove it, but the American public has yet to see a single piece of concrete evidenceno satellite imagery, no transcripts of Syrian military communicationsconnecting the government of President Bashar Assad to the alleged chemical weapons attack last month that killed hundreds of people..
AP further reported that the Obama administration has said its assessment is based mainly on satellite and signal intelligence, including indications in the three days prior to the attack that the regime was preparing to use poisonous gas. But, Multiple requests to view that satellite imagery have been denied, though the administration produced copious amounts of satellite imagery earlier in the war to show the results of the Syrian regimes military onslaught.
http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2013/09/08/obama-deploys-visceral-videos-of-alleged-chemical-attack-victims-to-manipulate-grow-support-for-syria-war/
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Why won't the President share with us his proof it was Assad? [View all]
another_liberal
Sep 2013
OP
It was the bombs are away speech with a "but now we need to wait for a maybe peace" ending....
Junkdrawer
Sep 2013
#2
It was not a waste of time. There are millions of Americans that don't know anything about ...
Tx4obama
Sep 2013
#3
He could have annouced he was releasing his evidence so independent experts could verify it.
another_liberal
Sep 2013
#8
The test results will be released when the U.N. report comes out in about a week.
Tx4obama
Sep 2013
#14
The rebels have bragged about seizing sarin gas munitions from Assad's stockpiles.
another_liberal
Sep 2013
#23
If the claim were proven false or unsupported, wouldn't it change *your* mind about striking?
Marr
Sep 2013
#35
Those people who have knowledge of the formats in which our evidence exists.
another_liberal
Sep 2013
#27
There are tens of thousands of people in the world who are experts in this field.
former9thward
Sep 2013
#33
When arguing that military action be taken in response to the classified intelligence?
Marr
Sep 2013
#36
You're prepared to go to war without even knowing we're attacking the right side?
another_liberal
Sep 2013
#48
More important than our President having the American people behind him.
another_liberal
Sep 2013
#55
The President does not have America's support, nor does he have the World's.
another_liberal
Sep 2013
#58
I've seen my country taken to war on the basis of misinformation too many times.
another_liberal
Sep 2013
#62
because our high leadership is not going to share with the entire WORLD our intelligence tactics.
Sunlei
Sep 2013
#61
you probably won't see it either, doubt the rebels can hide those semi truck rocket launchers.
Sunlei
Sep 2013
#73
At first I too thought it was most likely Assad who ordered the attack.
another_liberal
Sep 2013
#68