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Jerry442

(1,265 posts)
4. I think MIHOP is not so implausible.
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 06:28 AM
Sep 2013

Imagine that in 2000 a faction of the Saudi Royal Family gets word that there's a splinter group of al Qaeda (Atta's group) that wants to do an attack within the United States. A Saudi intermediary utterly trusted by the Bush family (Bandar?) broaches the subject of a terrorist attack with the Bush inner circle as a way of opening the door to military action in the Mideast. The Bush inner circle decides to go with it without specific plans in place.

The Saudi faction, working through Saudi Intelligence, guides Atta's group by making resources and intelligence available to him and smoothing the way for him, often in ways that don't dirty their hands.

After the 2000 (s)election, things heat up. Bush still wants to go to war, but his legitimacy is in doubt. A bigger bang will be needed. The Bush inner circle plays the same game Saudi Intelligence has been doing. Because they know what Atta is doing, they can cause obstacles in his path to magically melt away without getting their hands dirty. Atta is getting intel from the Bush administration via the the Saudi intermediary-Saudi Intelligence conduit, so he can tapdance around any attempts by American law enforcement and intelligence to recognize what he's up to and stop him. Who knows whether Atta came up the idea with flying airliners into the towers and buildings in D.C. or whether it was suggested to him. Ultimately, it doesn't matter.

In the end, the instruments got a lot blunter. Intel was presented to Bush and he brushed it off. Money from Bandar ended up going to the hijackers. In the days after 9/11, the Saudis lost their nerve and a bunch of them fled this country.

I don't think there was ever more than a tiny handful of people who had the full picture. Atta may have never known that he was indirectly working for Bush. I'm almost positive the people with him had no clue.

And as for the big question, why does the conspiracy stay hidden to this day? My answer is this: it didn't. If we had the same kind of evidence against a kid accused of killing someone while robbing a liquor store as we have against Bush, the kid would have gone straight to the chair.

I call it the Big Truth. It's the mirror of the Big Lie. It's the truth that's so awful to contemplate that no one wants to believe it, no matter how much evidence appears.



And off you go! OffWithTheirHeads Sep 2013 #1
I was watching the morning shows on television when the first plane hit. In_The_Wind Sep 2013 #22
MIHOP need not be controlled demolition dreamnightwind Sep 2013 #2
Agree. It's all about the money trail. Norrin Radd Sep 2013 #8
+1 grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #28
Well, here we go again. longship Sep 2013 #3
Damn the BFEE!!!! greytdemocrat Sep 2013 #12
I think MIHOP is not so implausible. Jerry442 Sep 2013 #4
+1 Norrin Radd Sep 2013 #9
PNAC and its manifestos on the Middle East before 9/11 GreenEyedLefty Sep 2013 #5
They LIHOP, at least. Enthusiast Sep 2013 #6
I'm in the LIHOP camp as well, Hayabusa Sep 2013 #30
'either you accept our offer of a carpet of gold, or we bury you under a carpet of bombs' RandiFan1290 Sep 2013 #7
i don't find it credible that an operation of that sophistication (official version) was planned KG Sep 2013 #10
The 911 plotters were college educated men using modern technology. hack89 Sep 2013 #14
THANK YOU hack! 7962 Sep 2013 #17
Those are all good points. The sole exception was the Flt. 77 pilot who exercised skill leveymg Sep 2013 #24
Absolutely. Over the years I have gone from accepting the snappyturtle Sep 2013 #18
With you - TBF Sep 2013 #21
All that can really be proven is Bush and Tenet Let It Happen (LIH). But, that was enough to indict leveymg Sep 2013 #11
IBL. nt Javaman Sep 2013 #13
LIHOP theorist here. MoonRiver Sep 2013 #15
I started out MIHOP, moved over to LIHOP PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #33
Here we go again. Devolve DU into a bunch of half-ass theorists. Welcome to DU-Infowars! 7962 Sep 2013 #16
So much this. nt sufrommich Sep 2013 #19
Perhaps you should have read the whole OP blackspade Sep 2013 #31
Trash thread. Iggo Sep 2013 #20
+1 -- and this post means I don't have to serve on any juries on this thread. ;) n/t X_Digger Sep 2013 #32
Speculating and Testing freedom fighter jh Sep 2013 #23
Nicely written! blackspade Sep 2013 #25
I distinctly remember watching the news on the night of 911... Larry Ogg Sep 2013 #26
Hanlon's Razor DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2013 #27
and 12 years later and still no evidence..no leaks, just tools with a puter- snooper2 Sep 2013 #29
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