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beerandjesus

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156. And frankly, this is something I really appreciate about Obama.

Wed Sep 11, 2013, 11:01 AM

Sep 2013

I appreciate the fact that he DOESN'T rigidly follow a single plan of action.

I'm with you in not understanding why it's so important to some on here to believe that Obama's incapable of reconsidering his options given new data.

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Shout Out for the Vocal and principled Anti-WAR Left. [View all] bvar22 Sep 2013 OP

Pres. Obama thanks you....you made him look resolute... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #1

Pull the other one; it's got bells on it. Raksha Sep 2013 #17

The people appreciate his resolute backing down. DirkGently Sep 2013 #64

He didn't back down....are you nutty? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #68

Yes. He wisely abandoned his first & second plans. DirkGently Sep 2013 #71

How do you know how many plans he had... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #74

It is a political failure to request a war you do not get. DirkGently Sep 2013 #88

How do you even think like that? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #103

Yes, we know Obama is a mathematician caseymoz Sep 2013 #150

and smarter than you! VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #165

Than me? I'm not running against him . . . caseymoz Sep 2013 #175

and YOU are calling me "incoherent'? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #176

Wait..... beerandjesus Sep 2013 #159

Isn't that HOW Chess is played? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #166

Well said. "Smart leaders listen to their people." CrispyQ Sep 2013 #77

I feel like he listened to us. I'd rather he had a DirkGently Sep 2013 #92

"feeling like it" and it being a fact are two different things...we know your "gut" isn't reliable.. VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #108

Your argument is ... Obama didn't listen to the people? DirkGently Sep 2013 #121

No...thats not what i said is it? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #123

Yes, that's what you said. I said, "I feel like DirkGently Sep 2013 #124

He Didnt listen to you...that is exactly what I am saying... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #125

Didn't realize being British was such a bad thing.... go west young man Sep 2013 #136

Just to be clear, I was not insulted at the accusation. DirkGently Sep 2013 #157

Don't worry Ford Prefect! go west young man Sep 2013 #174

God Save the Queen. ;) DirkGently Sep 2013 #178

A manager might...a Leader...LEADS.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #105

A good leader looks behind him to make sure his followers are still there. RC Sep 2013 #139

And frankly, this is something I really appreciate about Obama. beerandjesus Sep 2013 #156

I think democracy worked, just a bit. And that's good. DirkGently Sep 2013 #158

Loosen the kneepads RetroLounge Sep 2013 #79

While you make him look like a bipolar nutjob Scootaloo Sep 2013 #144

K&R quinnox Sep 2013 #2

One does get the sense that if the UK had marched lock-step with the Administration Maedhros Sep 2013 #48

yup, that is what I think too. We owe a thank you note to Great Britain quinnox Sep 2013 #95

We should model Cameron's "We heard the people and DirkGently Sep 2013 #113

No, no. You got it wrong. bvar22 Sep 2013 #112

I agree!~ Rockyj Sep 2013 #115

Spot on. Rec'd. This thing is far from over n/t Catherina Sep 2013 #3

the First Lady agrees. nashville_brook Sep 2013 #4

"What if someone threw a war..." Hydra Sep 2013 #5

I guess you're not old enough to remember, but I am. Raksha Sep 2013 #12

Nope, I cribbed it from what was likely a satire of that Hydra Sep 2013 #14

Same general idea. I'm just kind of a stickler when it comes to quotations. Raksha Sep 2013 #19

I usually look it up and do it correctly Hydra Sep 2013 #21

Um, Jackpine Radical Sep 2013 #52

No, no more wars. RebelOne Sep 2013 #118

Indeed . . . markpkessinger Sep 2013 #42

But on further reflection . . . markpkessinger Sep 2013 #102

Only 10-15% more Hydra Sep 2013 #104

We are on the same side as Jesus, Gandhi and MLK. Rex Sep 2013 #6

+10 RC Sep 2013 #140

aw, didn't you hear? Skittles Sep 2013 #7

It's statecraft by logarithm. rug Sep 2013 #75

+1000. We need to keep up the pressure! reformist2 Sep 2013 #8

We rock! ProSense Sep 2013 #9

Does the lack of WARGASM give you a sad? RetroLounge Sep 2013 #80

They are all sad today. n/t U4ikLefty Sep 2013 #114

A happy K & R from a proud member of the PEACE-loving "fringe left majority." n/t Raksha Sep 2013 #10

Du rec. Nt xchrom Sep 2013 #11

This past week, the entire silent moral majority of the American public stood with truedelphi Sep 2013 #13

+1 n/t markpkessinger Sep 2013 #24

I prefer left Twix warrprayer Sep 2013 #15

DURec leftstreet Sep 2013 #16

k and r snagglepuss Sep 2013 #18

I am never going to defend America's wars of empire Generic Other Sep 2013 #20

I LOVE IT that we caused this backtrack. Being vocal helps!! n-t Logical Sep 2013 #22

My rep is voting no - TBF Sep 2013 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author Sheepshank Sep 2013 #25

Hey, Obama knew that all you fringe left wacko's would go crazy SomethingFishy Sep 2013 #26

Proud to have helped him smash DirkGently Sep 2013 #67

Kudos to those who said an attack even with Congressional approval is a war crime. Coyotl Sep 2013 #27

And a moral one. nt woo me with science Sep 2013 #29

You are right; it would be a war crime. vlakitti Sep 2013 #32

Welcome to DU Coyotl Sep 2013 #107

Hi... Wlcome to DU! blue14u Sep 2013 #132

That it is. avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #109

They didn't have the votes in the House,and perhaps not in the Senate. It's as simple as that, leveymg Sep 2013 #28

Funny Cryptoad Sep 2013 #34

Do you want to explain that one? leveymg Sep 2013 #39

What part of it do you not understand? nt Cryptoad Sep 2013 #57

I'd rather their little dance had been wrapped up before 100,000 people died. leveymg Sep 2013 #61

Seems that it takes the Threat of Retribution Cryptoad Sep 2013 #76

You assume that the dance was a solo, and all it took was threats by another dancer. leveymg Sep 2013 #142

I assumed nothing ,,,,,, Cryptoad Sep 2013 #154

This message was self-deleted by its author Cryptoad Sep 2013 #56

He withdrew the request because he was about to lose big. morningfog Sep 2013 #134

It was Grayson and Palin that saved the planet. Whisp Sep 2013 #30

Im sure an apology Cryptoad Sep 2013 #31

Who is an "Obama Hater"? bvar22 Sep 2013 #38

Let me see if I can be a wee bit clear for you Cryptoad Sep 2013 #53

Oh, so your purpose here is to provide even more evidence... bvar22 Sep 2013 #86

I heard that Cryptoad Sep 2013 #96

There's a lot of trollish behavior here these days. Don't feed 'em. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2013 #117

i will give the obama administration credit noiretextatique Sep 2013 #33

"massive, worldwide protests" Cryptoad Sep 2013 #36

really noiretextatique Sep 2013 #37

"massive" is a subjective term,,,, Cryptoad Sep 2013 #41

of course i did: i participated in several noiretextatique Sep 2013 #44

The Same Here About San Francisco vlakitti Sep 2013 #169

lets say the protests weren't unbelievably small n/t Tveil Sep 2013 #47

I can go with that,,, nt Cryptoad Sep 2013 #55

Oh great another poster who signed up 5 years ago with almost NO posts chiming in HangOnKids Sep 2013 #73

i mean really noiretextatique Sep 2013 #82

Hey it is the Hannah Montana show HangOnKids Sep 2013 #85

You haven't been a member mimi85 Sep 2013 #90

I joined and I post HangOnKids Sep 2013 #98

I am a "low poster"... bullsnarfle Sep 2013 #152

Did I mention "poor folk"? I did not and too have been poor and it sucks! HangOnKids Sep 2013 #163

I was in a march with more than half a million people DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2013 #63

it sure as hell is noiretextatique Sep 2013 #70

Just saw your previous post DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2013 #81

it most certainly is: i might have met you in SF noiretextatique Sep 2013 #84

They voted for Obama the second time around and now think they are Democrats. RC Sep 2013 #141

excellent answer noiretextatique Sep 2013 #170

perhaps noiretextatique Sep 2013 #78

You must have been sleeping. polly7 Sep 2013 #83

i take it you didn't attend any protests? noiretextatique Sep 2013 #69

Reading comprehension FAIL quakerboy Sep 2013 #119

Proud to kick and rec such a fine OP! Fantastic Anarchist Sep 2013 #35

So, lets say Obama didn't get the deal done with Russia and Syria wrt the chemical weapons. Old and In the Way Sep 2013 #40

What if the gas is coming from al queda??? The situation is unclear. grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #49

Big K&R!! Keep up the pressure:) grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #43

You and all of the anti-war left rock, bvar! nt. polly7 Sep 2013 #45

A huge victory for us, indeed... 99Forever Sep 2013 #46

I hate to think about - Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2013 #50

Indeed!!! kelliekat44 Sep 2013 #51

Moving on.... Roy Rolling Sep 2013 #54

K&R! Phlem Sep 2013 #58

I supported Congressman Doggett (Austin) in opposing the anticipated bombing. k&R. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #59

Yes thank you activist brothers and sisters! gopiscrap Sep 2013 #60

K & R democrank Sep 2013 #62

Wasn't as big and loud as the anti-war left in 2002/2003 Roland99 Sep 2013 #65

And a shout out to the anti Obama right paulrandfu Sep 2013 #66

K&R forestpath Sep 2013 #72

The Assad base rejoicing because Assad is still at war against Syria. Nt Sand Wind Sep 2013 #87

The Assad Base Rejoicing? HangOnKids Sep 2013 #100

And Al Qaeda and the othere militant extremist factions are crying today bvar22 Sep 2013 #160

Don't have a sad durablend Sep 2013 #161

What's sad is if Romney had won the entire media would be talking about his "strength" in bombing. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #89

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Sep 2013 #91

Hear, Here..!!! K&R Outstanding Post! 2banon Sep 2013 #93

K&R n/t Paper Roses Sep 2013 #94

Solidarity! Zorra Sep 2013 #97

"Education of the People" allowed a great group of New Dems who are sick of KoKo Sep 2013 #99

rec! SammyWinstonJack Sep 2013 #101

I'm proud to stand with Nite Owl Sep 2013 #106

K&R LWolf Sep 2013 #110

Key word is "SOME" in regards to effect pasto76 Sep 2013 #111

Interesting responses libdude Sep 2013 #116

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #120

Thank you!! locks Sep 2013 #122

we *do* know them by their works... nashville_brook Sep 2013 #126

oh well, i`ll have to suffer under his leadership for a few more years. madrchsod Sep 2013 #127

Michelle Obama told him ''no'' or else he was sleeping in the Lincoln Bedroom alone! YOHABLO Sep 2013 #128

''You will know them by their WORKS.'' DeSwiss Sep 2013 #129

The POTUS war powers needs to be revoked. We can't have a POTUS commiting acts of war on his own. L0oniX Sep 2013 #130

While we mourn the dead Iwillnevergiveup Sep 2013 #131

Your last line. Now we can stop the TPP. pa28 Sep 2013 #133

only because most American's these days are either nutty fringe leftist or crackpot libertarian Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #135

Oh I do remember Iraq (the war with congressional support).. iamthebandfanman Sep 2013 #137

K&R idwiyo Sep 2013 #138

They had no role, and the far left rarely accomplishes anything michigandem58 Sep 2013 #143

How's that Joementum going, my pro-war centrist friend? Scootaloo Sep 2013 #145

I'm a supporter of President Obama michigandem58 Sep 2013 #148

I'm a supporter of the New Orleans Saints too!!! bvar22 Sep 2013 #168

And you support the president by screeching anti-left rhetoric? Scootaloo Sep 2013 #177

K&R. nt DLevine Sep 2013 #146

I"m here... Jasana Sep 2013 #147

In little Moline, IL, across the river from me this past Sunday, bullwinkle428 Sep 2013 #149

K&R. Well said. Overseas Sep 2013 #151

You are not really on the left Mosaic Sep 2013 #153

+100000 G_j Sep 2013 #155

It wasn't just the anti war left. obxhead Sep 2013 #162

K&R! nt raouldukelives Sep 2013 #164

Thank you. kenfrequed Sep 2013 #167

President Obama and the anti war Democrats thank you. great white snark Sep 2013 #171

A loud and persistent voice felix_numinous Sep 2013 #172

Yes. blackspade Sep 2013 #173